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08-03-2015, 11:59 AM | #91 |
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Yeah there's nothing alternative about Green Day or Blink 182
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08-03-2015, 12:07 PM | #92 |
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Well not post 1994, but I don't think they could be considered mainstream before that
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08-03-2015, 12:28 PM | #93 |
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"alternative" isn't about the popularity of something, it's about the content. when it's practically the majority, it's no longer alternative, but a band being successful doesn't just outright dismiss them
& the fact that there isn't really a "nirvana" on the fore of popular music right now is because... people don't really want one that much. there are people who are innovating, but it's mostly in rap & pop, etc. most innovations are coming with technology and i'm not sure people could really handle a big rock overtaking or whatever right now, it would probably mean tossing out their iphones |
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08-03-2015, 12:33 PM | #94 | |
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it's the time for post Daft Punk like Deadmau5, Skrillex or whoever to blow up, but "heroes" with guitars? the masses are apparently fine with selling out FooFighters stadiums for that. and then you still have bands like Deafheaven... and in the beginning Arcade Fire, I guess. they blow up just fine in the "alt crowd." |
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08-03-2015, 12:45 PM | #95 |
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also if we go away from this three year run and make it 3 albums - Björk.
I mean her run of albums in the 90ies is amazing - Debut, Post, Homogenic. and then she makes one of the best albums and tour of 2015 (so far.) that's unmatched. Last edited by pavementtune : 08-03-2015 at 12:52 PM. |
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08-03-2015, 12:56 PM | #96 |
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honorable mention Sleater Kinney, if you leave out the debut.
but 95-97, Call the Doctor and Dig Me out, then 1999 - damn, that's a good run, too. and PJ Harvey - 90ies greatness with the first 3 and then tops it with album number 4. |
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08-03-2015, 01:17 PM | #97 |
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Not a band, but Elliott Smith had a good album run in the 90s. Roman Candle, Elliott Smith, Either/Or, and XO were all great.
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08-03-2015, 04:57 PM | #98 | |
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08-03-2015, 05:05 PM | #99 |
Braindead
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When people talk about the 90's being this mecca of Alt rock:
"Well you had Nirvana and ummm... well Nirvana and umm, Did I mention Nirvana?" |
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08-03-2015, 05:09 PM | #100 |
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In today's age it's about finding the specific type of music you like and then delving into the one billion bands past and present that the internet gives you access to.
This is way better then being subjected to watered down mainstream accessible "Alternative Rock" |
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08-03-2015, 05:15 PM | #101 |
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Also Radiohead wins this if you drop the aribitary "3 year run" that doesn't make any sense given Fuzzy's picks.
I think you get The Benda and OK Computer in a 4 year run Okay I can leave this thread now |
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08-03-2015, 05:19 PM | #102 |
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sure it is. yet that guy (or any of the big dancefest crowd electronical folks) is doing better than post 2010 "indie guitar" bands, was all I'm saying. it's not the time and culture for a Nirvana type guitar band to claim the throne.
yea Radiohead doesn't work with the initial run/3 year span. we should disqualify fuzzy's settings and crown Radiohead (along with Björk and PJ Harvey, pls) as 90ies winners. Last edited by pavementtune : 08-03-2015 at 05:24 PM. |
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08-03-2015, 05:47 PM | #103 |
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better yet disqualify the "90's" and up the musical quality about 10X
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08-03-2015, 06:00 PM | #104 |
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Fuzzy have you ever listened to the band Weezer unapologetically ripped off down to the cover of Blue album?
Of course not because they weren't spoon fed to you by MTV http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG...er=allrovi.com |
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08-03-2015, 07:00 PM | #105 | |
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Hey Elph have you noticed how many of your music boards post boil down to "A lot of people like this (band/genre/era) but I don't, because i'm so cool that I only listen to a half dozen bands in a very limited stylistic range"? |
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08-03-2015, 07:05 PM | #106 | |
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christmas cornrow! |
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08-03-2015, 07:09 PM | #107 |
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post punk sucks
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08-03-2015, 07:09 PM | #108 |
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actually i think the 90s was a pretty good time for a lot of pre-determined "80s bands"
depeche made their 3 best albums in the 90s as far as i'm concerned cocteau had an epiphany with Heaven or Las Vegas & didn't really back down after that R.E.M., debatably for some perhaps, made at least 2 or 3 great albums Massive Attack had an awesome run if you can get into the ambiance of Protection Portishead as well Blur had basically 2 big 3-album runs with the "britpop trilogy" then s/t, 13, & think tank radiohead bla bla bla pulp lotta great formative rap records, & electronica/more trip hop for that matter (dj shadow, unkle, aphex twin, autechre, boards of canada) the 90s were cool both as a pinnacle of "post-modern rock music" & a transitional period for electronic stuff alike, i feel like |
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08-03-2015, 07:25 PM | #109 | |
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(imo both Pixies and Fugazi made their best music in the 80's just as a side note) but notice that you're not someone who acts like the 90's was the best decade for alternative rock thus you picking the actual exciting artists of that time and not arena rock disguised as alternative |
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08-03-2015, 07:30 PM | #110 |
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What I'm referring to is finding the purest form of whatever it is you like about music. (This could be in more than one genre it is for me)
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08-03-2015, 07:50 PM | #111 | |
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This whole thing about "oh that's just DISGUISED as alternative" is profoundly dumb. Something is underground until it becomes mainstream. That's how mainstream keeps itself prevalent is by adopting things that were once underground. The implication that music is divided up the middle by a line between people only interested in making pure art and people only interested in commercial success is ludicrous. It's a farcical culture war perpetrated deliberately by both sides to sell you Supras and Misfits patches, and you're still eating it up. |
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08-03-2015, 07:53 PM | #112 |
Through Silver In Buds
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RE: The Fugazi thing, I love Thirteen Songs but I dunno if it stacks up as better on the whole than the Five studio albums they made in the 90s
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08-03-2015, 08:01 PM | #113 | |
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Occasionally weirdo bands write music that is catchy enough to appeal to the mainstream for a short period Other times regular dude bands are marketed as being for outsiders |
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08-03-2015, 08:13 PM | #114 |
Through Silver In Buds
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"Alternative type people" Jesus man you need to spend some time rubbing shoulders with people of different cultural backgrounds to you.
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08-03-2015, 08:20 PM | #115 |
Braindead
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I think I have?
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08-03-2015, 08:35 PM | #116 |
Through Silver In Buds
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Well do more of it until you can get over the idea of "alternative type people" vs "the masses" because that kind of us-and-them cool-vs-uncool people-smart-enough-to-understand-The-Fall-vs-unthinking-sheeple-who-just-like-dave-grohl-cause-the-radio-tells-them-to thinking really only achieves one thing and that's to make smug little shits with Joy Division tees feel even smugger.
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08-03-2015, 08:37 PM | #117 |
Through Silver In Buds
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and it also, wether you're going to admit to it or not (you won't) causes you to throw down the shutters on all kinds of cool music you might enjoy because you either conciously or subconciously perceive it to be "for the masses" and therefore you never give it a chance.
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08-03-2015, 08:42 PM | #118 |
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it wasn't elphie who started with masses vs alternative they-took-away-green-day-on-the-cover-now-there-is-only-tswift argument, now you pick him apart as if it's him saying that
have mercy! also mals - totally agree, 90ies had so much beyond nirvana & co hell trip hop! |
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08-03-2015, 08:46 PM | #119 |
Through Silver In Buds
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Not in this particular thread but he perpetrates that attitude in everything he says. I've said this a million times before but I really do like Elph, I just get frustrated with his incredibly juvenile attitude towards taste and genre. He reminds me of me at sixteen when I was a dickhead goth bro who scoffed at anyone who liked Marilyn Manson but wasn't into Skinny Puppy. Only difference is trade out industrial for post-punk and also I was sixteen and i'm pretty sure Elph is old enough to know better.
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08-03-2015, 08:49 PM | #120 |
ILL KILL UR DOG
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WHO CARES
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