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Old 11-26-2019, 12:09 PM   #211
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I enjoyed the first couple of listens from last week and then didn't listen to it again over the weekend.

I agree that the first 5-6 songs are pretty decent but I find it impossible to try to get through all 17 songs.

Some percussion at some point would have been nice.

Without actually going back through the old catalogue like the Djali Zwan stuff and the SP 2.0 residency stuff, I don't think these songs are that much than what he was doing back then.

I think the Djali Zwan stuff was generally stronger, but even then I remember some people losing their minds over how good they thought it was.

The residency stuff, I like of something like "99 Floors" and it's meh, just like this album.

American Gothic isn't on Spotify but I just put on "The Rose March" on YouTube but it's the same vocal style, same guitar strumming. *ant you see me, can't you see me at all.

Overall I do like Cotillions better than Ogilala, I could never get into that album at all.

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:11 PM   #212
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Jesus Christ American Gothic is bad

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:20 PM   #213
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First batch is sold out.





 
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:24 PM   #214
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Market forces > artistic integrity

Billy Corgan 2019
Fashion shoots with Beck & Hanson, Courtney Love & Marilyn Manson,
Youíre all fakes, run to your mansions,
Come around... weíll kick your asses!

Itís hard to take sad Bill seriously when we know heís a wrassliní-loving Tea & Trumper who is putting on an act. His persona is unlikeable. Plenty of other artists fake emotion, itís part of the job, but they donít sell their entire act on it, or sing this shitty or tie themselves in knots trying to outplay a market that left them behind 20 years ago.

His vocals on this album are possibly the worst theyíve ever been. And itís an entirely stylistic choice.

Ogilala was much better.

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:30 PM   #215
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Fragile, the Spark and Cotlillions are highlights, but the vocals on the latter are ridiculously high in the mix. Totally stupid. The guy stopped learning or accepting feedback post-2003.

Also am I crazy or could Cotillions the track use some moody synth arpeggio shit in the background.*

*Apologies for the technical jargon, I am a professor of music.

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Old 11-26-2019, 02:55 PM   #216
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Any suggestions? I love this one, reminds me of Jersey Shore

Neptulius

Sail, sailor
Sail by june
'Round the Equator
Shadowing room
Set a course for home
Whistle along
I'll whistle along
And filth night
Stardust
Calls from the ___ home
Neptune's tune
Almighty power
They called it hairless flock
Who like ___ free to the sound
Sail, oh sail on
Sail, oh sail on

Will wailers
Will such loss?
So much sick
To ____
Cool rooms and locks
Silver, a spoon
A tarnished heart, a tarnished youth
Oh, whistle me now
By stardust
Once (?)
Neptune's tune
Once mighty power they've run
Hairless flock
Who like ___ free to the sound
Sail, oh sail on

Sail, sailor
Sail
Sail, sailor
Sail, oh sail on
Sail, sailor
Sail
Sail, sailor
Sail, oh sail on
Set a course for home
Set a course for home

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Old 11-26-2019, 03:56 PM   #217
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:18 PM   #218
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Jesus Christ American Gothic is bad
American Gothic was fkn great, what are you on about?

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:56 PM   #219
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AG is fucking indescribably bad

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:59 PM   #220
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It's actually ok. Pox is the only song I don't like, I think it would be a good rock song tho

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 05:59 PM   #221
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Indescribably dumb comment to make.

belongs in top 10 post-Zwan tracks:

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 07:25 PM   #222
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that sound more digest in flac that mp3
its will be better with a 24 bits version.

why there is no dsd version of smashing pumpkins ?

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:43 PM   #223
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downloadable sex documents? inkless, you dirty dog!

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:47 PM   #224
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American Gothic is actually a favorite release of mine. The vocal shit is still dumb but the music is good to my ears.

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:49 PM   #225
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Sunkissed is pretty good i can agree

i kind of forget about the others, except for Rose March which is merely passable

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:57 PM   #226
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Any suggestions? I love this one, reminds me of Jersey Shore

Neptulius

Sail, sailor
Sail by june
'Round the Equator
Shadowing room
Set a course for home
Whistle along
I'll whistle along
And filth night
Stardust
Calls from the ___ home
Neptune's tune
Almighty power
They called it hairless flock
Who like ___ free to the sound
Sail, oh sail on
Sail, oh sail on

Will wailers
Will such loss?
So much sick
To ____
Cool rooms and locks
Silver, a spoon
A tarnished heart, a tarnished youth
Oh, whistle me now
By stardust
Once (?)
Neptune's tune
Once mighty power they've run
Hairless flock
Who like ___ free to the sound
Sail, oh sail on

Sail, sailor
Sail
Sail, sailor
Sail, oh sail on
Sail, sailor
Sail
Sail, sailor
Sail, oh sail on
Set a course for home
Set a course for home
nobody cares, this song sucks Augustus balls

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:58 PM   #227
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some one's none too enthusaroo'd!

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:58 PM   #228
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You can't have the Jersey Shore without "The Situation"

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Old 11-26-2019, 10:34 PM   #229
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Glad we’re all in total, 100% agreement that any promise this album had was completely ruined by the vocal mix and lack of melody. It’s rare Netphorians see eye to eye, but it’s cool when we can all come together with the correct and same opinion.

Cheers.

 
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:49 PM   #230
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Alright Neptulius or however you spell it is pretty.

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 02:06 AM   #231
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Glad weíre all in total, 100% agreement that any promise this album had was completely ruined by the vocal mix and lack of melody. Itís rare Netphorians see eye to eye, but itís cool when we can all come together with the correct and same opinion.

Cheers.
Finally, I'm glad everyone sees eye to eye on something.

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 02:17 AM   #232
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glad to see the cast of F*R*I*E*N*D*S still looking well

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 02:49 AM   #233
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nobody cares, this song sucks Augustus balls
Sorry, I will wait till the next release when you can admit you actually liked Cotillions.

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:14 AM   #234
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felt animated while obsorbing this album it made a lot of folky records think back on each novenmber i swear it took a tree from god to make a leaf in time with the track that is the same name is the album is there no song called oligalga

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 07:44 AM   #235
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Well Iíll just have a few more details later on this Friday or Friday if you wanna is that a good day or a week for a day to go out to the house and if you get that one I wanna come in around the time I get you there are you going there if yíall are interested or you can just go get to go get something for me and then Iíll pick yíall Iíll pick ya guys Iíll be around and thereís a song named ďCotillionsĒ

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:29 AM   #236
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felt animated while obsorbing this album it made a lot of folky records think back on each novenmber i swear it took a tree from god to make a leaf in time with the track that is the same name is the album is there no song called oligalga
finally, someone really captivates everything I wanted to say in one compact post.

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 09:47 AM   #237
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So...given the reactions some people on this forum had to this record, that must mean there are people here who think TheFutureEmbrace is one of the most cutting edge albums of the 2000s and Zeitgeist is a prog-metal masterpiece.

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:10 AM   #238
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As the days go on I find myself returning to Fragile, The Spark. I think it's one of my favourite things he's done in years. The highlights for me are:

F,TS
Cotilions
Neptulius
Hard Times

6+7 and a few others sound nice too but I need to hear them a few more times.

I find these highlights are 'higher' than the highlights on Ogilala. Though I find the latter a bit more even overall, and a bit more listenable (I didn't even get through Jubilee once - deleted off my phone - and a few others have far too much of that damn fiddle).

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:19 AM   #239
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You can hear Billy letting farts rip at the beginning of 6+7

 
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Old 11-27-2019, 10:23 AM   #240
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The tune I absolutely hate and skip every time is Colosseum.

 
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