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Old 11-09-2019, 06:10 PM   #1
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Default Teargarden isn't even an original project name

It was already a Goth/Industrial project featuring Edward Ka-Spel of Legendary Pink Dots (a much much more clever artist)

I just needed to say this somewhere thanks

 
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Old 11-09-2019, 06:33 PM   #2
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:32 PM   #3
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but was it BY KALEIDYSCOPE!?!?!?!

 
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:47 PM   #4
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Old 11-10-2019, 04:10 AM   #5
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"Teargarden" was the best possible name for describing the whole project.

 
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Old 11-10-2019, 04:24 AM   #6
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The year 2010 called, it wants its thread back. Thnx.

 
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Old 11-10-2019, 04:35 AM   #7
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New Smashing Pumpkins album. [Sep. 16th, 2009|04:55 pm]



I'm happy to finally announce the plans for the new Smashing Pumpkins album.

Recording began yesterday, September 15th, 2009 on the new record which will be entitled 'Teargarden by Kaleidyscope'. The album will feature 44 songs, 4 of which are now being recorded. My desire is to release a song at a time beginning around Halloween of this year, with each new release coming shortly after until all 44 are out. Each song will be made available absolutely for free, to anyone anywhere. There will be no strings attached. Free will mean free, which means you won't have to sign up for anything, give an email address, or jump through a hoop. You will be able to go and take the song or songs as you wish, as many times as you wish.

We will however sell highly limited edition EP's (of 4 songs each times 11), and details of how those EP's will be made available are still being worked out. Because the songs themselves will be free, the EP's will be more like collectors items for the discerning fan who will want the art itself, along with the highest possible audio quality available. The EP's will be more like mini-box sets rather than your normal cd single. We may also offer other variations for sale, say for example a digital single with a demo version of a song. The commitment that is most important is the one I'm making to you: that the music of 'Teargarden by Kaleidyscope' will be available for free to everyone. All 44 songs: free for ALL.

When the entire album is finished, it will be compiled into a deluxe box set which will also be made available for sale. Those who have bought the EP's need not worry, as the box set will not be a recompilation of the limited edition pieces.

The story of the album is based on 'The Fool's Journey', as signified in the progress of the Tarot. It is my intention to approach this by breaking down the journey of our life here into four phases as made by these different characters; the Child, the Fool, the Skeptic, and the Mystic.

The music of 'Teargarden by Kaleidyscope' harkens back to the original psychedelic roots of The Smashing Pumpkins: atmospheric, melodic, heavy, and pretty.

I already have 53 songs written for the record, so I am quite confident that I already have much of the material that I would need to undertake such an extensive project. I am very committed to seeing this album through to its completion and very, very excited about the prospect of delivering new Smashing Pumpkins music to you in a unique and exciting way.
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Old 11-11-2019, 05:21 AM   #8
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Interesting to read that again after all that time. Song For a Son came out on 8th December 2009, so it was already a month past the original projected dates.

With the exception of maybe Astral Planes, nothing on TG sounded like the "original psychedelic" SP.

It really would've been better as a solo project.

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 06:06 AM   #9
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this is more "psychedelic" too


 
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Old 11-11-2019, 08:25 AM   #10
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I already have 53 songs written for the record, so I am quite confident that I already have much of the material that I would need to undertake such an extensive project. I am very committed to seeing this album through to its completion and very, very excited about the prospect of delivering new Smashing Pumpkins music to you in a unique and exciting way.

this is what I keep in mind when he makes promises

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:32 AM   #11
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Well how many of the 53 did we get, if we count Oceania and Monuments (and some of Shiny)?

TGBK: 12
Oceania: 13
Monuments: 9
Some of Shiny: Solara / Marchin' On

So that's about 36 songs, plus whatever else was leftover from Day 4 Night. If it was to be 44 songs, then he nearly got there.

Anything else? Was Jesus Needs a Hit a TGBK song?

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:32 AM   #12
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It really would've been better as a solo project.
that's pretty much true of most things post-MCIS save for Machina & Zeit

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:34 AM   #13
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which i suppose is what should be expected from a dude saying he realized he could easily go solo after the band's second album

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:41 AM   #14
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but was it BY KALEIDYSCOPE!?!?!?!
Well, the Legendary Pink Dots had an album called The Terminal Kaleidosope so yes it appears Billy ripped the whole name idea from Edward Ka-Spel who probably would have sued if anyone actually gave a shit about Teargarden By Kaleidyscope.

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 12:33 PM   #15
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that's pretty much true of most things post-MCIS save for Machina & Zeit
Nah, Adore and Machina (1 and 2) are better as SP.

Oceania is a form of SP, though decent enough.

Zeitgeist... hmm. From a recorded point of view, it's as SP as Siamese Dream is. So maybe.

TGBK and Monuments should've been solo. Though Monuments is better than Shiny. American Gothic should also have been solo.

Really, I'd love all of Billy's post 2000 work if he sang like he used to do on the recordings.

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 12:40 PM   #16
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you started off a post with "nah" then went on to pretty much confirm my point

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Old 11-11-2019, 06:15 PM   #17
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"the music of 'Teargarden by Kaleidyscope' will be available for free to everyone. All 44 songs: free for ALL."

Maybe that's why he's shied away from promoting Oceania and Monuments as part of TbK. There's not enough money to be made from free shitty music and golden obelisks.

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:36 PM   #18
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Well, the Legendary Pink Dots had an album called The Terminal Kaleidosope so yes it appears Billy ripped the whole name idea from Edward Ka-Spel who probably would have sued if anyone actually gave a shit about Teargarden By Kaleidyscope.
Damn that's a good catch

it's hard for me to imagine Billy actually listening to The Dots though idk

I just saw them live and they still got it

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:48 PM   #19
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:52 PM   #20
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tookish!

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:06 PM   #21
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Beergarten by Heinekenscope

 
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:26 PM   #22
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Bill Patrick Morgan is absolute GENIUS !!! GENIUS!!! DID I SAY GENIUS!!!!! i mean just listen to this lush harmonies, Spaces, Bill does not just show off fire works how fast I can play and how many chords I can fit into one beat. He just does it when he needs it. (Bach was best at that!, I love him just as much as Bill.) Bill is one of my favorite pianist Along with Keith Jarret, Thelonious Monk, Glenn Gould, from the beginning of my pianist career starting at age 18. For years I listened to him but at my early stages when I was tone deaf I loved to listen to him, but it was to much for my musical mind, after a while it was so overwhelming especially when I was trying to analyze it. I would just get tired and had to go listen to something else. Now that I can hear relative pitch well, it is absolute joy to listen to this REMARKABLE GENIUS OF THE 20 CENTURY. Did I say Genius again!? To me this are not just harmonies for the sake of harmonies this are necessary harmonies intensities and silences for breathing spaces to create paintings and atmospheres of very discreet place that really is the monumental moment of creation of what jazz image became. This are not just harmonies, these are paintings in 4 D time and space. Photos like the one from the movie Blade Runner. When Harrison Ford picks up the photo as Rachel left. And you can see in the photo, her mother and Rachel in motion on the photo. Very Poignant moment with the smokey, dirty, kitchen background. I miss Scott LaFarro on the Bass. Bill never recovered from this! His heroin was probably partly responsible for Bill to escape the pain he suffered loosing a friend, Colleague, and most importantly the Artist. But the crew is professional I know these cats not by name of course, but I would listen for study analysis and transcription with one of the most brilliant teachers on harmonies and specializing in Bill Evans Harmonies in Bay Area Don Hass They definitely have achieved enhancement of Bills Impressionistic painting in music. If I am not mistaken Bill was a classically trained pianist like myself before becoming Jazz pianist and French Impressionism especially Ravel was his delight. Even thou I don't want to be like Bill, thou I want to be influenced by him. I bow to the Genius! Electronic Music Composer and Pianist ObeeLektro.

 
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you know there's a new alcest album, right?

 
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you know there's a new alcest album, right?
i did not! checking RED now...

 
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:01 AM   #25
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you know there's a new alcest album, right?
no metal in my thread, thanks

 
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Old 11-12-2019, 12:42 PM   #27
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alcest transcends genres, fool

 
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Not a single mention of cEvin Key, Jesus fuck

 
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that's intentional cuz Skinny Puppy is some pleb ass industrial

 
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