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Old 10-12-2019, 07:14 PM   #1
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Default TIL that in The Matrix trilogy, when the Oracle gives Neo a cookie, she is modifying

his code, which is then imprinted onto Smith. I'm guessing nobody will ask me how I know this.

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Old 10-13-2019, 04:33 AM   #2
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I'm giving you an official warning, killtrocity.

 
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:38 AM   #3
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:34 AM   #4
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similar threads: Hillary Rodham Clinton: alive or dead?

 
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:38 AM   #5
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Old 10-14-2019, 10:23 AM   #6
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Old 10-14-2019, 11:55 AM   #7
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Old 10-14-2019, 11:58 AM   #8
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When i was a teenager, I thought I was hot shit for describing Massive Attack's Mezzanine album as soundling like "an audio version of The Matrix." Then someone reminded me "Dissolved Girl" or something was played in the first scene with Neo at his computer

It was on that day that I died & became reborn in Christ (James Christ)

 
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:25 PM   #10
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Old 10-14-2019, 01:52 PM   #11
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totally false and inaccurate
source: I've seen every matrix analysis video on youtube

 
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:40 PM   #12
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Y'all know there's a new movie coming, right? I don't know how widely reported, outside of nerd sites, this was. Lana Wachowski is returning to write and direct (Lilly is busy with some other project), and Keanu Reeves (?!) and Carrie Anne Moss (??????) have been announced to star so far.

 
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Old 10-16-2019, 12:39 AM   #13
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and neil patrick harris (????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????) from starship troopers (??????)

 
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yes, neil too! and ricky gervais! steve carrell, kim gordon, tosh point oh!
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totally false and inaccurate
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well please allow me to drop a matrix analysis wall of text on you

If you will recall in Revolutions at the very end, the Architect's comment about "playing a dangerous game", this was specifically in regards to the Oracle setting up Neo's awakening as The One with the "contingent affirmation", referring to his and Trinity's relationship. The Architect says that The One is designed to have a general love for humanity, but in Neo's case it is "far more specific". The reason it's more specific is that The Oracle set it up this way. She told Trinity that she would fall in love with The One, and this becomes intrinsically linked with his awakening as The One when she resurrects him, which ultimately leads Neo to choose the door which does not reboot the Matrix, thereby risking total annihilation. So this in itself is "a very dangerous game" and is what enables Neo to break the cycle of rebooting Zion.

But Smith is another essential component of this whole scheme, because his presence is what forces the machines to make a deal with Neo. Without Smith, the machines have no reason to make a deal with Neo. Consider that Smith refers to her as "mom" in Revolutions, implying that she either a) wrote his program, which seems somewhat odd considering his role as a logic-based enforcer contrasts with her role as an "intuitive", empathetic program, or b) is responsible for his unique state of being at the moment that he makes that statement. The latter is much more likely when we consider that Smith says "some part of you imprinted onto me, something overwritten or copied" to Neo in Reloaded.

This is the key. The Oracle gives Neo a cookie, Neo enters Smith and destroys him from the inside, and then Smith decides to disobey his program rules. We know that this is the 6th version of the Matrix in which Neo emerges (see Architect diatribe in Reloaded), and we know that Smith has been around for previous iterations (Seraph says he's beaten him before, to which Smith replies that things are different now). So what's different now? Well, in the previous 5 versions, Neo returned to the source. In this case, he chooses to return to the Matrix due to his unique connection to Trinity, the "contingent affirmation". Now there's nothing about this connection which should impact Smith any differently than in the previous 5 iterations where Neo as well as Seraph presumably beat him repeatedly.

Therefore it makes the most sense that The Oracle modified Smith's programming only in this particular iteration of events, the 6th version, by giving Neo a carrier code through the cookie which he then transferred to Smith, thereby executing the other essential component of her plan to achieve peace between humans and machines.

 
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:51 AM   #16
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Y'all know there's a new movie coming, right? I don't know how widely reported, outside of nerd sites, this was. Lana Wachowski is returning to write and direct (Lilly is busy with some other project), and Keanu Reeves (?!) and Carrie Anne Moss (??????) have been announced to star so far.
I don't know if it will be a good movie. But it will most definitely be ambitious, and it will deal with esoteric concepts. If Cloud Atlas and Sense 8 are any indication. Well actually on that note, it might just be a bunch of graphic dildo scenes...

The announced cast is somewhat at odds with who survived the original trilogy, which basically guarantees a weird time jump.

I'm hoping that NPH plays a young Merovingian, who is basically just NPH from Harold and Kumar.

 
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:54 AM   #17
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@Mars, who is that quote from in your sig? Is that c_wilson's alt?

 
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:59 AM   #18
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The premise of these movies is super dumb. AI would just develop reliable, superior nuclear fuel power and move on.

These movies lost me with the Architect bullshit. Just makes no sense and they tried to inject rationality with the excuse that people rejected utopia - because if that’s the case and they reject it then why do they tear down the shitty non-utopia every time anyway? Why even bother?

It all falls apart under actual scrutiny.

 
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:27 PM   #19
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AND ANOTHER THING.

Why didn't the stupid AI just toss up a space elevator and say "Screw this planet, monkeys!" and float away into space? Obviously they were incredibly gifted at harnessing solar power AND they demonstrated they could create crazy electric magnet future vehicles, so why didn't they just develop a spacey AI god transport vessel?

FUCK.

 
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"Hey, I've got an idea. Rather than wage an increasingly destructive war that we can predict will be extremely costly to our limited resources, why not just leave the planet and venture into space, which we can easily do since we're robots?"
"Shut up, Contrarybot170181 and pick up your fucking gun."

 
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ok sorry I do hope that

 
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:43 AM   #27
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well please allow me to drop a matrix analysis wall of text on you

If you will recall in Revolutions at the very end, the Architect's comment about "playing a dangerous game", this was specifically in regards to the Oracle setting up Neo's awakening as The One with the "contingent affirmation", referring to his and Trinity's relationship. The Architect says that The One is designed to have a general love for humanity, but in Neo's case it is "far more specific". The reason it's more specific is that The Oracle set it up this way. She told Trinity that she would fall in love with The One, and this becomes intrinsically linked with his awakening as The One when she resurrects him, which ultimately leads Neo to choose the door which does not reboot the Matrix, thereby risking total annihilation. So this in itself is "a very dangerous game" and is what enables Neo to break the cycle of rebooting Zion.

But Smith is another essential component of this whole scheme, because his presence is what forces the machines to make a deal with Neo. Without Smith, the machines have no reason to make a deal with Neo. Consider that Smith refers to her as "mom" in Revolutions, implying that she either a) wrote his program, which seems somewhat odd considering his role as a logic-based enforcer contrasts with her role as an "intuitive", empathetic program, or b) is responsible for his unique state of being at the moment that he makes that statement. The latter is much more likely when we consider that Smith says "some part of you imprinted onto me, something overwritten or copied" to Neo in Reloaded.

This is the key. The Oracle gives Neo a cookie, Neo enters Smith and destroys him from the inside, and then Smith decides to disobey his program rules. We know that this is the 6th version of the Matrix in which Neo emerges (see Architect diatribe in Reloaded), and we know that Smith has been around for previous iterations (Seraph says he's beaten him before, to which Smith replies that things are different now). So what's different now? Well, in the previous 5 versions, Neo returned to the source. In this case, he chooses to return to the Matrix due to his unique connection to Trinity, the "contingent affirmation". Now there's nothing about this connection which should impact Smith any differently than in the previous 5 iterations where Neo as well as Seraph presumably beat him repeatedly.

Therefore it makes the most sense that The Oracle modified Smith's programming only in this particular iteration of events, the 6th version, by giving Neo a carrier code through the cookie which he then transferred to Smith, thereby executing the other essential component of her plan to achieve peace between humans and machines.
ok i'm convinced

 
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The premise of these movies is super dumb. AI would just develop reliable, superior nuclear fuel power and move on.
the original premise was using the human brain as processors, but that changed by a studio request

 
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you know, they can retcon that detail now, I guess people now understand what processing capacity means

 
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