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06-20-2018, 04:49 AM | #1 |
Minion of Satan
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AOL Sessions REVISITED
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06-20-2018, 06:54 AM | #2 |
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when it sucked but not as bad as it sucks now. RIP in piece b'arcy.
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06-20-2018, 07:26 AM | #3 |
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I always forget what a mess Heavy Metal Machine 2007 is
“Hope ya keh cha mota CLEAAAN” |
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06-20-2018, 09:17 AM | #4 |
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I remember netphoria circa 2007 piecing together that Heavy Metal Machine was going to be the road map for the new material - even before Zeitgeist came out, and not something like Siamese Dream or the more whimsical pumpkins. The willy wonka outfit too... yikes.
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06-20-2018, 09:26 AM | #5 |
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I guess the current state of Pumpkins has gotten so bad that Netphoria now looks back nostalgically on the Zeitgeist era. I actually liked the live band a lot from 2007-2008. It was a different beast than Smashing Pumpkins 1988-2000, but still felt like it had the spirit of Smashing Pumpkins. Nothing from 2010 on has captured that same essence.
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06-20-2018, 09:48 AM | #6 | |
Minion of Satan
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Good stuff: Last edited by amoergosum : 06-20-2018 at 09:56 AM. |
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06-20-2018, 10:12 AM | #7 | |
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06-20-2018, 10:14 AM | #8 |
Minion of Satan
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"...fucking Bodies!!!...hahahaha...woooooe!"
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06-20-2018, 10:23 AM | #9 |
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That "United States" performance is fierce. Those shows the band played in Europe before returning to the U.S. for the residencies were on fire. In his post 2000 career, Billy has had a few moments where it seemed like he might be able to pull off something special and redeem himself in the public eye. Right off the top of my head, I can think of the 2001/early 2002 Zwan shows, these run of shows in May and June 2007, the Spirits in the Sky shows in 2009, and the Record Store Day show in 2010. Unfortunately, Billy always manages to get things crashing back down.
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06-20-2018, 10:26 AM | #10 |
Minion of Satan
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Man...that Bodies video shows that he was still able to REALLY feel it.
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06-20-2018, 10:38 AM | #11 |
Minion of Satan
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06-20-2018, 06:56 PM | #12 | |
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Just follow your muse and it will find its audience Billy. The problem is that he doesn’t realize being true to himself will naturally have ups and downs, and the super success he craves comes when his muse aligns with the Zeitgeist. |
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06-20-2018, 07:52 PM | #13 |
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I’m revisiting your mom.
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06-21-2018, 12:45 AM | #14 | |
Minion of Satan
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Exactly. And he keeps on repeating that same mistake. Follow your muse: Be patient. Heal the relationships with your former bandmates. Meet with D'arcy. Start small, don't rush it. Jam sessions, small tour (like Arising), write songs, record a new album eventually, big tour eventually. Don't follow your muse: Be impatient. Follow the money (arena tour). Take as few risks as possible (Jack Bates, Jeff Schroeder). |
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06-21-2018, 12:59 AM | #15 |
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06-21-2018, 12:59 AM | #16 |
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He’s been following a formula for the past 17 years that goes against the formula that made him famous and it isn’t working and never will but he keeps banging his head against a wall trying to make it work like a complete moron. What’s that definition of insanity again? It makes me nauseous when I hear an interview and he says to Jimmy or the producer “no no no it sounds too much like SP we have to change it
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06-21-2018, 01:04 AM | #17 |
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But yeah I agree these aol sessions were amazing thanks mainly to jimmys drumming and a bit of passion when bc tried to make it big again, superchrist from this session has to be included on a live cd mixtape of best live tracks 1988-present
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06-21-2018, 01:04 AM | #18 |
Minion of Satan
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Follow your muse:
Release the Chicago Kid album. Don't follow your muse: Put it in a can because some people complain on the internet. |
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06-21-2018, 01:58 AM | #19 |
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These performances were pretty popular in their own time and still seem to hold some magic
Something went right for a change |
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06-21-2018, 02:32 AM | #20 |
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06-21-2018, 06:20 AM | #21 | |
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06-21-2018, 08:27 AM | #22 |
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06-21-2018, 11:37 AM | #23 |
Minion of Satan
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Not sure if you guys were aware, but Jeff was present on these recordings. And this was still Shitegeist era.
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06-21-2018, 12:18 PM | #24 |
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Man Superchrist was such a cool live song and the studio version was absolute ass
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06-21-2018, 01:12 PM | #25 |
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Yeah these were good
Jeff wasn't quite "The Shredder" yet, he & Ginger were still just essentially glorified D'arcy & James replacements Lisa tho, she was awesome. Wish she'd been around longer. And not just cos she was the hottest female in SP history |
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06-21-2018, 01:20 PM | #26 |
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06-21-2018, 04:26 PM | #27 |
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Love Lisa. She felt like such a welcome addition to the band and actually was able to bring something unique
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06-21-2018, 04:48 PM | #28 |
Minion of Satan
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06-21-2018, 08:34 PM | #29 |
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The most successful member of SP since 2007
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06-22-2018, 03:33 AM | #30 |
Ownz
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Think Jimmy in particular really enjoyed having Lisa in the band.
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