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02-20-2018, 12:44 PM | #1 |
Braindead
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Iconic, timeless guitar maker Gibson on the verge of bankruptcy
this can't help but sting, because i truly love gibsons and i wish i could own a few really badass les paul and sg customs from the 60's and 80's, but -
boy, do they have it coming to them. they have been making inexcusably terrible and overpriced fucking instruments for decades, all the while trying as hard as they can to fuck up their classic, iconic designs by shoving shitty automatic tuner systems/digital outputs/whatever other bullshit on them. i can't find the article right now, but i swear i've read an article that said one of the bigshots at Gibson was uber-cocky for years and refused to listen to any criticism, saying "people will buy whatever we make, because we are the best". i'm paraphrasing but his quotes were just as obnoxious, if not more. anyway. i love many different types of guitars, and there are plenty of other cool brands out there, but the cherry picked Gibsons were always my favs. it's a shame that's how this company's gonna end. any Gibson lovers here? not the overpriced dad instruments , the actual great ones |
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02-20-2018, 03:39 PM | #2 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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Wata plays a gibson. so much that she stripped off the finish from the back of the neck.
pretty amazing. i miss poots. |
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02-20-2018, 05:07 PM | #3 |
Minion of Satan
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Sorry too busy playing my Rickenbacker to pay attention
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02-20-2018, 05:15 PM | #4 |
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02-20-2018, 05:18 PM | #5 |
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I used a Les Paul this one time. I'm not an experienced guitar player, but I liked my Yamaha Pacifica better. Gotta love that strat-style body.
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02-21-2018, 01:19 AM | #6 |
Through Silver In Buds
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Gibsons sound good but i've never played one where i didn't find the neck to be an unwieldy baseball-bat type affair. I've played a heap of guitars but for various reasons only bought Ibanez. I picked up a '76 "lawsuit" Les Paul for a steal a while ago and I like it way better than any of the official Gibson Les Pauls i've played.
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02-21-2018, 02:06 AM | #7 |
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no offense towards you personally SJ but i never once understood assholes who bitch about the shape of necks or whatever. it's usually the same type of cunts who swap and fiddle with their pickup configurations even though they can't play a straight chord. C shape, V shape. who fucking cares. the only thing that matters is if it sounds good
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02-21-2018, 02:08 AM | #8 |
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this guy knows what i'm talkin bout. he always demo's the most spectacular Gibsons
great player, too. |
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02-21-2018, 02:09 AM | #9 |
Braindead
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if it didn't involve me not being able to play it, i would gladly tear my arm off to get this guitar
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02-21-2018, 02:14 AM | #10 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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Gibsons are nice but I might slightly prefer Fender
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02-21-2018, 02:19 AM | #11 |
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Yeah, I'd take a Telecaster over any Gibson guitar tbh
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02-21-2018, 03:07 AM | #12 | |
Through Silver In Buds
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02-21-2018, 06:41 AM | #13 |
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to be fair though, your complaint is not uncommon, and it's part of what i was talking about when i mentioned their production standards have dropped dramatically in the last few decades. the vintage gibsons have kind of a reputation as having more finely sculpted necks because, you know, back then they had a dude sitting there with a razor or something shaving away at the wood until it was right.
i think i mainly don't care that much about necks because i have big hands, so it doesn't make a big difference for me either way. |
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02-21-2018, 06:42 AM | #14 |
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can ppl nerd out with me over guitars here just a little bit?
i miss having a guitar thread :/ |
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02-21-2018, 06:54 AM | #15 |
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okay.
Last edited by MarquisInSpades : 02-21-2018 at 08:41 AM. |
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02-21-2018, 04:39 PM | #16 | |
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Something I will say about LPs though is they are too heavy. Playing standing up with an LP will actually start to rub my weirdly protruding rib cage after awhile, causing discomfort. |
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02-21-2018, 05:15 PM | #17 | |
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With a slimmer neck I find I have to be much more precise and pin-pointy, using fingertips instead of my finger. That's the model I want, too. |
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02-21-2018, 07:19 PM | #18 |
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Gibson fucked up because even if I wanted one there is no entry point. If I am new to the instrument and like Angus Young or Slash or whatever, there is nothing cool for the budget consumer. The epiphone headstock is a non-starter for me and many others I am sure - Fender did not make this mistake.
Fender is currently courting young female guitarists with shortscale stuff that is great and affordable, and even their budget stuff (squier classic vibe) is leagues above Gibson/Epiphone equivalents. Epiphones have that stupid ugly headstock, so if you can't get past that you are looking at a price tag of at least $800 for a base model that does not even come close to acceptable IMHO. Guitar sales are down across the board for all companies - thats why Fender has "FenderPlay" to entice people and make actually learning the instrument less intimidating. Shouldn't be that difficult for Gibson, but here we are. |
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02-21-2018, 09:52 PM | #19 |
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I remember when I picked up guitar ~15 years ago people were already talking about Gibson as being on the downslide due to all sort of antics like attempting to make Les Pauls a Gutiar Center exclusive, having the federal government raid their facilities for illegally imported Brazilian rosewood, a general downward trend in the quality of their instruments, etc.
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02-21-2018, 09:54 PM | #20 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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look at Fender in the 60s though when it belonged to CBS. It's possible Gibson could bounce back, but yeah, I also just read about how the guitar market is spiraling downward because kids don't listen to guitar music anymore
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02-21-2018, 11:14 PM | #21 |
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I like my SG.
I dig Les Pauls but man they are heavy |
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02-22-2018, 12:11 AM | #22 |
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I HOPE THEY ALL BURN IN HELL.FOR.THE FAMILIES THEY HAVE HURT IN THIS PROCESS I SEE THAT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS LET US DOWN SEVERALY
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02-22-2018, 04:43 AM | #23 |
Through Silver In Buds
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Anyone got a fav mid-range guitar? I've got an Ibanez AR Standard and it's a great little axe for the price range; heaps of tone options, it really sings on the higher frets, and it's as comfortable to play as anything premium.
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02-22-2018, 09:59 AM | #24 |
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i guess there are more kids buying loopers and midi controllers these days than guitars. appreciating and understanding the architecture of music is a dying feat. songs today consist of drum loops, basslines and compressed singing diseased with fake affectations. Quote:
tbh i always saved up for the thousand dollar and upward instruments, but i own an epiphone 335 style guitar that i'm fond of. |
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02-22-2018, 10:10 AM | #26 |
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I'm a strat man
Wee bap ba badop bo |
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02-22-2018, 10:13 AM | #27 |
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02-22-2018, 04:20 PM | #28 |
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I like to play barre chords up and down the neck, for personal reasons
The fat-necked seagull my dad lent me is causing me to hurt mightily in the base of my thumb muscles after a 3.5 min tune Anyone know an acoustic that doesn’t suck fux that has a littler neck for my achy breaky hands |
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02-22-2018, 04:21 PM | #29 | |
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I learned on one and never really moved past it. Just feels like home. Stock everything (except graphite saddles ofc) sounds amazing with just some amp dirt |
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02-22-2018, 05:18 PM | #30 |
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oh yeh well i bought a 57 reissue STRAT-o-CASTER in my late teens with money saved from chinese restaurant table waiting because, well, that's what billy corgan used, goddammit
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