Smashing Pumpkins 'Shiny And Oh So Bright' Tour 2018

[smashingjj]

I wanted to say a thing but thing's already been said

[srt4b]

Anyone else holding out for some secret warm-up show at the metro or 930 club or something?

[New Art Rioter]

£80 for standing tickets for Wembley on a week day!

Jeez

[johncg]

I still say we get a bunch of netphorians in Darcy-Billy text quote t-shirts together to form a resistance coalition in the front row of one of these shows.

[whywontyoulistn]

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

£80 for standing tickets for Wembley on a week day!

Jeez

Face value of £69, fucking fees. Anyway, other comparable shows at the same venue:

Slayer - £55
Def Leppard - £55
Snow Patrol - £55
Nightwish - £35

Edit: None of the above have "Gold Circle Standing" they're all general admission, so if you want to be anywhere near the front for SP, it's £95.

Yeah, fuck you Billy.

[Forgotten Child]

If you're a O2 customer you can buy the tickets from their website.

[Funbags]

Wait...they’re playing Wembley?!

[fluxequalsrad]

Originally Posted by whywontyoulistn

Face value of £69, fucking fees. Anyway, other comparable shows at the same venue:

Slayer - £55
Def Leppard - £55
Snow Patrol - £55
Nightwish - £35

Edit: None of the above have "Gold Circle Standing" they're all general admission, so if you want to be anywhere near the front for SP, it's £95.

Yeah, fuck you Billy.

To be fair, all those bands are garbage. Pumpkins lack of general admission is par for the shit-course that is trying to enjoy this band.

[slayed23]

Originally Posted by Funbags

Wait...they’re playing Wembley?!

The arena... not the stadium.

[slayed23]

Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad

To be fair, all those bands are garbage. Pumpkins lack of general admission is par for the shit-course that is trying to enjoy this band.

Slayer is not garbage.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Billy's legacy for higher ticket prices:

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[whywontyoulistn]

Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad

To be fair, all those bands are garbage. Pumpkins lack of general admission is par for the shit-course that is trying to enjoy this band.

Maybe, but they (well, not Snow Patrol) are older acts with a large legacy fanbase, and this shows the regular standing ticket price for this kind of event is far below what the Pumpkins are charging, and that's not even taking into consideration the Gold Circle bullshit. The sad thing is, I'm probably still going to pay it. Gotta see this trainwreck before version 198797 implodes...

[slayed23]

Honest question though.

Would you rather shell out double the money to be guaranteed to sit near stage or show up to a venue 8 hours in advance for that guarantee while paying half?

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by slayed23

The arena... not the stadium.

Holy crap. Phew! For a second there I thought Billy had crossed into the ultimate delusion.

On a side note, I’m sure Live Nation or whoever have crunched the numbers on how many people to expect in each city.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Which means: up to 11000 in London and 13000 in Bologna. At a two cities Europe-trip.

Compared to the thirty cities with up to 20000 in North America looking very humble...

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

£80 for standing tickets for Wembley on a week day!

Jeez

Hey, if you wanna relieve your 90's glory days, The Smashing Pumpkins are the only ticket in town!

Believe me, people are going to pay.

Billy, the asshole that he is, is smart enough to realize this. He's selling out to the max because he has so few 90's competitors left to call him out on it and make a big deal of it.

[fuzzyroes]

I'm kinda sad that a Dave Grohl or a Eddie Vedder hasn't come out and ripped Billy for his bullshit with this new tour. Someone has to hold these alt-rock legends accountable.

Oh well, at least Stephen Malkmus called out his shit.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad

To be fair, all those bands are garbage. Pumpkins lack of general admission is par for the shit-course that is trying to enjoy this band.

It's kind of sad when Def Lepard has the integrity to play for a general admission floor, yet the "grunge-gods" The Smashing Pumpkins wanna pillage you for each row.

[slunken]

cold and black and infinite > shiny and oh so bright

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by slunken

cold and black and infinite > shiny and oh so bright

NIN > SP

NIN’s latest EP is probably the most challenging thing they’ve ever done

[fuzzyroes]

If anyone is looking to this SP tour for artistic integrity, they're barking up the wrong tree.

"The" Smashing Pumpkins are doing their victory lap... A big cash-out tour to complete their legacy.

If anyone thinks Iha and Jimmy are gonna be progressing forward with Billy 5 years from now, they're dreaming.

[slunken]

no doubt

[slayed23]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I'm kinda sad that a Dave Grohl or a Eddie Vedder hasn't come out and ripped Billy for his bullshit with this new tour. Someone has to hold these alt-rock legends accountable.

Oh well, at least Stephen Malkmus called out his shit.

You reiterate the same point once a week.

We get it. You don't think an artist should sellout or go back on his or her word, or whatever.

[Ram27]

Isn't Grohl doing kinda the same thing?

FF actually has more integrity than SP at this point, despite being so bland

______

Honestly, maybe it was more fun watching the ungodly chaos Billy imparted on us than if they followed the FF model

[johncg]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I'm kinda sad that a Dave Grohl or a Eddie Vedder hasn't come out and ripped Billy for his bullshit with this new tour. Someone has to hold these alt-rock legends accountable.

Oh well, at least Stephen Malkmus called out his shit.

Maybe they are just nice people who don’t go around trashing people in the press constantly. Unlike Billy.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Ram27

Isn't Grohl doing kinda the same thing?

FF actually has more integrity than SP at this point, despite being so bland

______

Honestly, maybe it was more fun watching the ungodly chaos Billy imparted on us than if they followed the FF model

Hell no. Grohl was forced to start from scratch and created his own thing for the love of the music and he consistently sells out enormodomes without having to resort to gimmickry.

Say what you want about the music, but it's not as though Corgan has put out anything better in the last 20 years.

[vajohna]

Didn't Malkmus cash in with a Pavement reunion tour?

[fuzzyroes]

That's different. Malkmus had the full original lineup, no more no less. There was no one left out, no random guys added.

Pavement in their peak didn't make a lot of money. It wasn't till about 10 years after they broke up that their reputation started growing in a huge way. In that sort of scenario, I think it's perfectly acceptable for an artist to reunite and give fans a chance to see the band and then put it to rest.

It's obviously an entirely different scenario for Billy Corgan. Billy Corgan was huge from the get go and has been touring around in The Smashing Pumpkins for over 10 years now. It's just fucking cheap at this point, and if he want's to do a reunion, the least he could do is do something interesting... Not the same neutered and watered down versions of MCIS and Siamese Dream cuts.

Honestly, I had hope that the reunion would kick ass. I thought maybe he'd get his voice together with everything on the line, but honestly, he sounds worse than ever.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Ram27

Honestly, maybe it was more fun watching the ungodly chaos Billy imparted on us than if they followed the FF model

You're telling me that Foo Fighters have been more boring and bland over the past 20 yeas than Billy Corgan?

Everyone snuffs up their nose at Foo Fighters output, but really, Billy Corgan has been even more brutal... At least over the past 18 years.

[Gooch]

I’m bored and the tour hasn’t even started yet