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Old 06-06-2003, 05:58 AM   #1
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Ok, this is from a mailing list I subscribe to. Now, all you scenesters need to read really carefully:

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From Simon Reynolds' Blissblog http://blissout.blogspot.com/

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UBERHIPSTERS UNITED INFLUENCES INDEX 2003

HARDY PERENNIALS
[blue chip stocks, cooler than being obscure ultra--oneupmanship
manoevure
stuff]

Beatles. Kraftwerk. Chic. Giorgio Moroder. Nirvana. Tubeway
Army/Numan. Joy
Division. The Fall. Pixies.

PASSE
[tapped-out, yesterday's cool move, middlebrow]

Gang of Four. First three albums Wire. Can up to Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi /Neu!/ Faust. Electro. Obvious No Wave/mutant disco: Contortions, 99 Records (Liquid Liquid, ESG). Gram Parsons. Boards of Canada. Italo Disco.
Cratedigga: Library
Music: KPM, Boosey & Hawkes etc/David Axelrod/The Rotary Connection.
Obvious dub producers: Perry, Tubby. Brian Wilson/Van Dyke Parks. Scott Walker.
Tropicalia.
Cleveland: Electric Eels, Styrenes, Rocket For The Tombs, early '
classic' Pere Ubu. New York electrofunk/postdisco: Arthur Russell, Prelude, West End, Peech Boys, D-Train etc.
"Being Boiled" era Human League/The Normal/'Nag Nag Nag'-era
Cabaret Voltaire. Suicide. Nick Drake. United States of America. IA-era Red Krayola.

HOT FOR NOW
[OTM this minute, edge-of-middlebrow danger like pears that go overripe when you turn your back for a second]

Soft Machine. Dancehall: early Nineties to early noughties. This Heat. St.Pancras/Rough Trade-era Scritti Politti. Ze. Eugene MacDaniels. Incredible String Band. The Cure. America. Young Marble Giants. Supertramp. Amon Duul (I). Fleetwood Mac
circa Rumours/Tusk. Ethnographic field recordings.
Proto-synthcore:
The Screamers, Nervous Gender, Minimal Man..
Post-electro: Mantronix, T. La Rock,Chep Nunez, Nitro Deluxe, Cutting label, freestyle. My Bloody Valentine.
The Godz.
The Fugs. Virgin-era Scritti. Canonical UK folk rock: Fairport
Convention/Shirley Collins/ Pentangle. Janet Kay/Dennis Bovell lovers rock productions. 'Attic Tapes' eraCabaret Voltaire. BBC Radiophonic Workshop. Yoko Ono. Rudimentary Peni.

TRES HOT a/k/a RIPE FOR REDISCOVERY
[cooler-than-thou dead-cert trump-all-comers power move]

The Homosexuals. Jefferson Airplane circa After Bathing At Baxters. Heldon/Richard Pinhas. Eighties pre-ragga dancehall. Electronic body music: Front 242, Nitzer Ebb, Skinny Puppy, et al. Bugge Wesseltoft. Henry Cow. Less obvious No Wave/mutant
disco: Lust Unlust label, ImpLOG, Jody Harris/Bob Quine, Pulsalamma, Dark Day, Ut.
More obscure UK folk-rock: Martin Carthy/Topic label/ June
Tabor/Albion Band.
Tuxedomoon. Canterbury lesser lights: Caravan, Egg, National Health, Hatfield & the North, Gilgamesh. Ron Geesin. Radar/Rough Trade-era Red Crayola. More obscure post-punk: Family Fodder, Fatal Microbes, Metaboliste, I'm So Hollow, Lemon Kittens,
Vice Versa, Out On Blue Six, Basement 5, 4 Be 2's, Furious Pig. Metal Urbain/Dr. Mix.
South Asian fusion/desi/bhangra. Bleep & Bass: Unique 3, Sweet
Exorcist (esp. C.C.C.D), Nexus 21, Rob Gordon productions, Ability II, etc.
Soft-hop: PM Dawn, Definition of Sound. Vanity 6/Early Prince/Sheila E. Wire circa "The Drill."
Speed Garage. Hamilton Bohannon. Romeo Void. The Buggles. M. Tom Tom Club circa The Man with the 4 Way Hips . David Crosby. The Blue Nile. Simple Minds circa New Gold Dream .Swoon/Steve McQueen era Prefab Sprout.. Ragga jungle. "Lost
Generation' a/k/a UK postrock-with-songs: Disco Inferno, Seefeel, Pram, Earwig/Insides, Moonshake/Laika etc.. The Minutemen. Judee Sill.
Australian postpunk: Voigt/465, Rhythmx Chymx, Slugfuckers, Tame O'Mearas, early Severed Heads. Pre-Some Bizarre
Einsturzende Neubauten. Recommended Records. Bill Fay.
San Francisco industrial:
Factrix, Monte Cazzazza, Chrome, Z'Ev. LA Free Music Society/Monitor/B-People.
German postpunk/industrial/artpop: pre-Virgin Deutsches Amerikanische Freundschaft/Der Plan/Palais Schaumberg. Japan circa Adolescent Sex .
Sproton Layer. Rose Royce. Fuck Off Records: Danny & the Dressmakers, Teen Vampires, etc.
Savage Rose. John Martyn circa Inside Out/One World . Pere Ubu circa New Picnic Time/Art of Walking/Song of the Bailing Man . Joni Mitchell. Obscure Manchester postpunk: Object label (Spherical Objects, The Grow-Up), The Passage, Manicured
Noise, New Hormones (Ludus, The Tiller Boys, Biting Tongues, Eric
Random).
Thomas Leer (with Robert Rental and solo circa 4 Movements EP ). Annette Peacock.Curved Air. Early Gun Club. Blood On the Saddle. Agitation Free/Univers Zero. David Byrne circa 'Cloud Chamber'/ Catherine Wheel . Pre-baggy Happy Mondays.

RANK OUTSIDERS FOR 2004
[a gamble--major ahead-of-the-curve cool potential versus total
humiliation]

Jefferson Starship. Simple Minds circa Empires and Dance . Spacebox. Colosseum.
Wigwam. The Strawbs. Rock Follies soundtrack/Julie Covington. Sopwith Camel. The Police circa "Walking On the Moon". Wings. Pavlov's Dog. Virgin era-Can. Steve Hillage. Stackridge. Manfred Mann's Earth Band. Danielle Dax. Kate Bush circa The Dreaming . Late Gun Club. Patrick Adams. The Three Johns. Irish folk-
rock: Planxty, Horslips, early Clannad. Be Bop Deluxe/Red Noise/Bill Nelson solo.
Peter Gabriel III .
Pre-'94 trance: Hardfloor, Arpeggiators, etc. Second-wave avant-funk: Chakk, Portion Control, 400 Blows. Doctors of Madness/Richard Strange. Angletrax.
Judie Tzuke.
Man Jumping. Crammed Records. UK Decay. Mid-Eighties New Zealand: The Chills,
The Clean, etc. Jean-Michel Jarre. Shambling: Ron Johnson Records,
Stump,
Shrubs,
Bogshed, Big Flame, Membranes. Yargo. The Skids circa Absolute
Game/Joy .
Terence Trent D'Arby. Osibisa. Belgian hardcore techno. Luigi Nono.
Really
herky-
jerky/quirked out New wave: first three albums XTC, Punishment of
Luxury, Lene
Lovich, Nina Hagen, Plastics, Cardiacs. Landscape. Post-golden age
SST:
Saccharine
Trust, Paperbag, Always August, Universal Congress Of, Lawndale,
Zoogz Rift.
"Mature' Undertones circa 'It's Going To Happen' and 'Julie Ocean'.
Gryphon.
Jethro
Tull. Sailor/Pilot. Swans Way. Raunch-era Last Few Days. Brand X. Non-
Devo
Akron
(Tin Huey, Rubber City Rebels, etc). Batcave: Specimen, Alien Sex
Fiend, Sex
Gang
Children, Flesh For Lulu.

DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT
[their day will never come again]

Starship. Simple Minds from 'Don't You Forget About Me' onwards. The
Doobie
Brothers. Pearl Jam. Collective Soul. Bush. Primal Scream (all
phases). UB40.
Jamiroquai. Lloyd Cole and the Commotions. Fatboy Slim. NWOBHM: Iron
Maiden,
Saxon, etc. Manic Street Preachers. Beck. Deep Purple/Rainbow. Roger
Waters
solo.
Pink Floyd post-Roger Waters. Elvis Costello from Blood & Chocolate
onwards.
Texas.
Leisure Process. The Police circa Synchronicity . Mid-period Factory:
Cath
Carroll,
Kalima, etc. Big Country/The Armoury Show. Microdisney/Fatima
Mansions.
Bethnal.
TRB. Erasure. The Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Jeff Beck. 1984/85 retro-
rock
Americana:
True West, Guadacanal Diary, Long Ryders, Jason & the Scorchers.
Curve/Garbage.

Living Colour. Blood Sweat 'n' Tears. UK mod revival: Secret Affair,
Merton
Parkas.
College rock (including all REM apart from Murmur ).

Compiled from data provided by ******* Laruffa, Kodwo Eshun, Jess
Harvell,
Rebecca
Rosengarde, Jon Dale, Sasha Frere-Jones, Job de Wit, Suzanne Spiers,
Joshua
Merin,
David Howie, Steven W. Schuldt, Scott Neill, Matthew Ingram (ha,
gotcha),
Nicola
Stecher, Haley Kenshin, Nick Runcible, Gus Halpern, Michael Jary,
Graham
Dudlike,
Mark Simmons, Donald Pryner, Alice Thompson, Heike Blumner, Jake
Sandlin,
Fletcher Kern, Claire Brighton, B. Cole, Chas Bovis, Jason Blum, Noam
Chomsky,
Chris P. Laika-Crouton, Rennie J. Pilgrem, Hugh Ball, Michael Belfer,
Owen
Gavin, M.
P. Acardipane, Sasha Digweed, Jen Porridge, Chris Watson, Ally
Turnbull, Adrian
Newton, Mal Linder, Una Friel, Nicky Mancuso, David Siano, Danny
Privet-Hedge,
Rupert Sager, D. Raskit, Sprettro Blanquez, D. Galas, Orlando Julius,
Smitty
Davenport,
Sid Barcelona, Jeff Simply, Sly Fidelity, Brown Hitgowenit, H.P.
Buggo,
Waldorf Statler,
Andy Breton, Linda Gartside-Stroheimer, Gabi Bargeld, Holger
Fehlmann, Mannie
Fresh, Lynval Schneider, Rowland Cave, Bruce Falconi, J.D. Carducci,
Mark E.
Bramah,
Deena Wrigley, Hilary Small, Brenda Twice.

Thanks to all contributors.

Best of the individual ballots to appear next week.

NOTES

1/ Which Eighties' Post-punk still has some legs but it's advisable to
disinvest from
obvious names and areas, and stack your portfolio with the very
obscure (John
Peel
one-offs) or the geographically remote (Germany, Australia, the
Belgium/Netherlands,
even France). Generally speaking, the early Eighties looking pretty
peaked on
most
fronts, even though it's yet to really cross over into the
mainstream, so the
smart
money is already moving deeper in that decade--skipping
the mid-Eighties (the so-called 'Bad Music Era': 83/84/85/86)
altogether and
going
straight to the late Eighties. Now is the time to start investing in
second-wave
industrial/Euro Body Music and early dreampop (the surprise, seemingly
premature
return of My Bloody Valentine to currency). Likewise in dance music,
it would
seem
that last year's power move--punk-funk/mutant disco/Italodisco/NYC
electrofunk
(Prelude/Russell/West End)--is already tapped out, and the more astute
speculators
will be moving into the post-electro/pre-house phase (Cutting, Nitro
Deluxe,
Freestyle). The trouble with moving to the late Eighties and
bypassing the
mid-period
(a time when things were so desperate that The Triffids were regarded
as
saviours) is
that the optimum time span for recycling is 20 years or more, and
although
revival-
attempts often begin after 15 years, the first several attempts are
usually
false starts
or premature stabs (sort of equivalent those warriors in Zulu who
sacrifice
themselves
in order to test the firepower of the besieged British garrison and
use up
their
ammunition), e.g Romo which was roughly 14 years after the period it
was
attempting
to revive and thus six to eight years premature. So although we can
expect some
tentative moves into baggy/Madchester, say, these are too risky for
the
sensible
coolmongerer.

2/ It seems like only yesterday. Dance music's cycles run about half
the
duration of
rock's cycles--instead of 20 years, the optimum period is 10 years.
Despite the
surprisingly non-appearance of a major ardkore/darkcore revival
(probably
because
people started pining for and recycling that era within only a few
years of its
demise),
we're gearing up for a massive '94-the-year-jungle-broke ragga-amen-
rinse
revival.
For a while now, 'ardkore dealers have been devoting more space to
tunes from
94-
95 and prices have been rising accordingly. Other signs ******* the
Soundmurderer
CD, figures like DJ Shitmat and Enduser, Luke Vibert who has cut five
old skool
jungle
singles and has the Amen Andrew Vol. 1 record sooncome on Rephlex,
while Mike
Paradinas's Planet Mu label is putting out a compilation of Remarc's
classic
amen
tunes. Power moves here entail moving out well beyond the obvious
knowns
(forget
about the serious middlebrown zone of
Rage/Grooverider/Fabio/Reinforced/Goldie,
and especially Bukem --even though 'Demon's Tune' was one of the
first Amen
tunes) and expand the 'auteurisation' syndrome to the figures who
never got the
iD/
Face/Muzik/Mixmag treatment: Remarc, Bizzy B, Randall, DJ Nut Nut,
Kemet Crew,
Suburban Base/Ganja (Marvellous Cain, Hype, Pascal/Johnny Jungle,
Noise of Art,
Flex, Krome & Time), Dead Dred/Second Movement/Back 2 Basics, DMS &
Boneman, X
Ram/Shimon/Andy C, Gappa G & Hyper Hyper, Formation/SS, plus the
countless
ragga-sploitation bandwagon-jumping dancehall relicks of the era.
Ultra power
moves: Leviticus 'Burial' and anything by M-Beat especially the ones
not
featuring
General Levy.
And I just ordered the two Contortions albums! :erm

Last edited by mono : 06-06-2003 at 06:12 AM.

 
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Old 06-06-2003, 07:19 AM   #2
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This is so last week. The Homosexuals have been making their underground rise for the past two years. Sheesh.

And they weren't even that good.

 
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Old 06-06-2003, 12:30 PM   #3
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Hipster orders duly received.

 
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Old 06-06-2003, 12:39 PM   #4
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I was downloading The Contortions when I opened this thread.

 
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Old 06-06-2003, 01:43 PM   #5
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er....Caravan are cool? Gryphon and Brand X have a chance of being cool? Next thing I know, the Pitchfork site will be praising the hell out of Marillion records.

 
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