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10-11-2016, 09:44 PM | #2731 |
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I changed my opinion on Hillary Clinton after seeing an image in which she is making a funny face. I mean, she just looked so dumb, and then everything was clear.
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10-11-2016, 09:56 PM | #2732 |
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Facts and Reason 101: A Case Study ft. The Omega Concern
1. Computer technology and cloning have both been subject to much research since the 1960s. 2. Computer technology has come a long way, where the room-filling devices of forty years ago were significantly less powerful than the tiny smartphones of today. Therefore, advancements in human cloning over the same period mean that a genetically identical and fully-grown, albeit "glitchy," copy of a woman in her sixties can be produced within three days to serve as a body double. |
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10-11-2016, 10:02 PM | #2733 |
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It's Moore's Law. In another decade, we'll be able to clone people years before they are even born.
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10-11-2016, 10:05 PM | #2734 |
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Wait a second... If Hillary's team of clones are only a few days old, can they really be blamed for the veritable plethora of rapes that Bill was never convicted of?
Vote Hillary and wait for her to die of Parkinson's on election night, at which point she'll be replaced by a doppelgänger with a clean slate. Done. |
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10-12-2016, 10:49 AM | #2735 |
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omi garsh hillary kkklinton is still against gay marriage
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10-12-2016, 10:53 AM | #2736 |
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that's cool and all just know you're voting against your own self interests by voting for anyone but Hillary
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10-12-2016, 11:04 AM | #2737 |
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tax the rich kills people?
If ever someone was wrong about something |
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10-12-2016, 11:07 AM | #2738 |
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10-12-2016, 11:07 AM | #2739 |
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all the third party voters should get together and try to build momentum to amend the Constitution and dismiss the EC forever. That's the only way it's ever gonna happen.
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10-12-2016, 11:50 AM | #2740 |
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Even though voting third party is pointless in a two-party state like the U.S., I feel like I can't really begrudge anybody who does it because they feel like they just can't support either of the candidates. It's not a strategic utilitarian decision, but I can accept the idea that sometimes people just want to do something on principle.
I only get annoyed when they come at others and go "haha ur dumb if you vote for one of the major parties because then ur just part of the system man, i like to criticize people who make strategic choices aimed at maximizing good for not being ideologically pure enough even though I haven't established how me finding personal security in my moral superiority will actually make life better for other people." So far ILP hasn't expressed this attitude, so I'm okay with that. |
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10-12-2016, 12:33 PM | #2741 |
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Thank you, it's not like I have a choice when I hate them both. how else will anyone know that we want better options if no one votes for them?? I am not going to stage a violent revolution ffs
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10-12-2016, 12:39 PM | #2742 |
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And I sincerely hope it makes life better for me and other people. Okay so it's not strategic but seriously what else can I do? If I want others to vote third party en masse to get through to the powers that be, I have to be willing to do it too. If people throw their vote away on a candidate they don't actually support but are settling for, I think that's worse in the long run. But I pick and choose what laws I follow anyway, so my daily life is unlikely to change unless something extreme happens.
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10-12-2016, 12:47 PM | #2743 |
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why do so many people feel that they need to "like" the POTUS candidate that they vote for? voting should only be about advancing your interests. Voting for a third party doesn't advance your interests. It doesn't help anybody. It doesn't change the politics. It accomplishes nothing, except maybe self sabotaging the policies and rights you care about.
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10-12-2016, 12:50 PM | #2744 | |
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10-12-2016, 12:55 PM | #2745 |
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"i care so much about income inequality, the environment and human rights that i'm going to vote for someone who is unqualified for the job and will never be elected" - Every Clueless Liberal Who Votes for The Green Party
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10-12-2016, 12:57 PM | #2746 |
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here's a pic of Clueless Jill Stein having dinner with Putin at a celebration of his State Run propaganda network
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpNtfPFUEAA0mka.jpg |
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10-12-2016, 01:06 PM | #2747 |
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If the Green Party wants to actually build a movement that could some day change policy in the U.S., kind of wondering why they are trying to start at the top instead of, I dunno, trying to get some people in congress or something first. Nope, let's start with the highest office and work our way down from there.
Like, it would make more sense to push for reforms like ranked ballots at local levels to make strategic voting less necessary, getting in some Greens, and progressing from there. The actual structure of the system has to be altered for change to happen. You can't just click your heels together three times or something. |
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10-12-2016, 01:09 PM | #2748 |
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People here don't care about politics until election year. I'm guilty of this too and want to think about this more.
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10-12-2016, 02:00 PM | #2749 |
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Most Americans don't even care for the entire election year, just the two months after Labour Day.
I think that's part of why people feel like they need to vote for a candidate they 'like,' and if they don't like the choices, then the whole system is pointless. Because they think politics is something you do every four years where you're supposed to vote in the person who will fix everything and do everything you want them to do, and if there's no person like that, then fuck. I see elections as a time to choose the option that will allow it to be easier for civil society groups to pursue the goals they want, who are the real sources of change and progress in society. Clinton is still a neoliberal shill, but it'll be easier for anti-corporate progressive groups to achieve their aims under a Democratic administration than under a Republican one. |
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10-12-2016, 05:18 PM | #2750 | |
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10-12-2016, 06:48 PM | #2751 | |
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Clinton has a very cozy relationship with the finance sector, there are progressive forces within the Democratic Party that are going to push her and influence policy, particularly if there is a blue Congress. The Party has one of the most progressive platforms in years due to the efforts of people like Sanders and Warren. And of course there are looming Supreme Court appointments, so if you don't like the fact that politicians are brought out and are even getting large amounts of foreign money so that Saudi Arabia can influence your elections, it makes sense to vote for the candidate who will appoint the judges who will overturn Citizens United, even if she has Saudi money in her pockets. Big business has thrown in with Clinton, but that's not evidence that Trump would benefit regular Americans, anymore than Napoleon III shutting down the bourgeois parliament meant that he was aligned with the interests of the working class. Big business just prefers Clinton because Trump is off the spectrum and unpredictable, and they don't like uncertainty in markets. And also Clinton is going to win anyway so may as well throw your money behind her instead of the guy who's alienating sectors of society that are becoming a larger part of your market. But he'd still pursue regressive taxes and austerity and all the things that harm the working class. |
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10-12-2016, 07:03 PM | #2752 | |
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The one show on MSNBC that is actually entertaining and unusually fair and balanced for the network is Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough's awesome. |
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10-12-2016, 07:06 PM | #2753 |
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10-12-2016, 07:11 PM | #2754 | |
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I think Trump will help fix the economy and help you guys with the collective snowballing debt and he'll focus on an America based sovereignty instead of this hippie-diiipy one world government dream that Hillary Clinton is peddling. This talk about Hillary Clintons policies are all but senseless as it's already a fact that she'll lie about her positions in order to get the people behind her. That's all she's doing by adapting some of Sanders popular positions. It ain't gonna happen ILP. S'all a fraud. Last edited by fuzzyroes : 10-12-2016 at 07:35 PM. |
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10-12-2016, 07:21 PM | #2755 | |
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But for the sake of your hypothetical argument: IF Clinton HAD nothing to do with the leaked audio: SHE STILL got up on her high horse and criticized Trump to no end over the footage, so in that sense it's only logical for Trump to point out the hypocrisy. Though of course "Hillary's an inspiration, Trumps the devil" when it comes to you mainstream media sheep. |
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10-12-2016, 07:30 PM | #2756 | |
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Common sense Scotty. |
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10-12-2016, 07:44 PM | #2757 | |
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And again, just asserting that she put it out doesn't prove anything. Any one with access to that footage could have put it out without consulting her. Last edited by reprise85 : 10-12-2016 at 08:17 PM. |
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10-12-2016, 07:47 PM | #2758 |
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you speak with the intelligence and articulation of scrawlings in a truck stop restroom but I don't assume you are imitating a urinal
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10-12-2016, 07:48 PM | #2759 | |
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10-12-2016, 08:00 PM | #2760 |
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Again, a third party will not ever win a presidential election, ever, except in times of total political chaos, and that is usually when one party dissolves and a third party takes its place in the bipolar system. If these people really want to undermine the two party model, amend the Constitution to 1 person 1 vote. That is the only way we are ever going to have a multiparty system in the US.
But of course it's way easier to whine and moan about your choices and then throw a temper tantrum that others won't throw away their votes with you because PRINCIPLES and VOTE WITH MAH CONSCIENCE. Start talking about amending the Constitution, then I might see third party efforts as something other than bee stings meant to herd the two larger parties |
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