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Old 04-11-2018, 09:02 PM   #91
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fuzzy, you should be proud that you have so many followers that hang onto your every word. find a way to monetize that. start a youtube channel?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:13 PM   #92
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- Gene Simmons On Power: My Journey Through the Corridors of Power and How You Can Get More Power kind of a self-help book on how to make money and gain success and antidotes from other artists that have helped inspire him.

- Leah Remini Troublemaker I really enjoyed this one. It documented her time growing up in Scientology and her tumultuous break from the religion

-Cyndi Lauper A memoir A fascinating look at a women coming of age in the 70's and the chaos of the 80's music scene and the realities of losing fame

- Oliver Stone The Putin Interviews A complete detailed manuscript of his interviews that would later be showcased on the Showtime documentary. The book contains a lot of material that didn't air on the show

- Rex Brown 101% Proof The unfiltered look at the career of Pantera and what really went down with the breakup of the group
As a bookworm from a Canadian suburb, how would you say you're able to relate to the content within each of these titles?

I'd be curious to know how you're able to connect with the story of a woman coming of age in the seventies, her experiences within the chaos of the eighties music scene and coming to grips with the reality of losing her fame, for example.

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:20 PM   #93
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It's a fascinating read, and it's always good to take wisdom from others' experience. Take the advice and apply where necessary in your own journey
Why do you not appear to apply this advice where it concerns the works of rap artists, though?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:34 PM   #94
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Earlier, you seemed to suggest that your dislike of rap stemmed from an inability to relate to it. Now, you appear to be suggesting that it contains nothing worth relating to. Which is it?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:38 PM   #95
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It's interesting that the two examples you've just given of rap-associated acts you're able to derive some enjoyment from both appear to feature a white-only cast.

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:56 PM   #96
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You've just admitted to finding there to be nothing worth relating to as far as the experiences of black artists within a genre you've attributed to black culture go, however.

How can you claim that there's not a racial element to your views in light of this, particularly when considering that you've also gone on to make exceptions for a list of only white artists?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:06 PM   #97
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When you refer to "some bad people," can we assume that you must therefore be referring quite specifically to people within the black community?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:13 PM   #98
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Are you therefore morally opposed to any music that glorifies antisocial behavior?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:15 PM   #99
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Okay, so it's only music that promotes violence that you're opposed to?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:21 PM   #100
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That must mean you're totally fine with any and all rap songs that make no positive references to violence, in that case?

 
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:37 PM   #101
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As an alcoholic and a fan of Green Day, don't you think it's at least a bit odd to celebrate any supposed link drawn between rap music and substance abuse?

You're just as much an example of a person that's been drawn to the songwriting of a fellow addict.

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 12:19 AM   #102
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***you can hear the crickets***

The silence is deafening!

Put one up for the Fuzzster
lol

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 12:36 AM   #103
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guns in the band name destruction in the album title

copious references to illicit drugs

kinda violent, pretty criminal

but what's missing

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:47 AM   #104
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guns in the band name destruction in the album title

copious references to illicit drugs

kinda violent, pretty criminal

but what's missing
who is this band you speak of

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:50 AM   #105
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slash is 1/2 african american

disrespect to rock music?

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 04:14 AM   #106
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I'm also planning on being a tout for other gamblers. I might try and get that worked out before the start of the next NBA season. I don't know anything about setting up an online subscription business or anything. I'll have to hire someone to help me.
LOLOLO

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 04:16 AM   #107
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rereading what I typed, I was just basically trolling when I said that I thought it would be racist to try and rap...
LOLOLO
you just came up with that
jesus fucking christ

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:31 AM   #108
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I gotta say, I'm a little surprised at how so many people are sticking up for the content in rap music on a The Smashing Pumpkins forum.
It's almost like not everyone on this board is mired in '90s nostalgia.

Or maybe your arguments are so thin that they are too easy to tear apart.

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:34 AM   #109
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I've actually considered the idea of doing podcasts and having local musicians and other artists and public figures on to interview as well as covering sports... Just a bit of everything.

I'm hoping I can sustain and eventually gamble for a living, and then undertake an endeavor like that.
It's good that you have dreams and honestly, I hope you see them come true someday. But I've never known a gambling alcoholic who had his shit together, at least not long-term.

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 05:37 AM   #110
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Remember when Axl Rose sang that song about getting away from "niggers and police"? Such a brilliant band.

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:14 AM   #111
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WHEN IS IT 187 ON A MOTHERFUCKING COP I AIN'T GOT ALL DAY

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:44 AM   #112
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YOU CAN HEAR THE CRICKETS

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(CHRICKET)

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:57 AM   #113
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It's almost like not everyone on this board is mired in '90s nostalgia.

Or maybe your arguments are so thin that they are too easy to tear apart.
ur father's butthole is easy to tear apart

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 06:57 AM   #114
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:03 AM   #115
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I'm a man of peace.

Reprise specifically, appeared to be very very angry when I pointed out that a lot of criminals were drawn to rap music. Reprise, what exactly do you have to say about this study done by the University of Berkeley? https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...toryId=5390075
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Oh Reprise, we're waiting
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You gave me 20 minutes to answer

I would have to see the actual study, which is not named on that article. See, I don't read clickbait headlines and assume they are telling the entire story. Maybe it is. But I predict a high level of correlation does not equal causation. Care to find and link the actual study to me?

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 10:08 AM   #116
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inmates eat lots of ramen noodles

think about that!

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:14 AM   #117
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Findings of this study, however, should be interpreted with caution. Due to the cross-sectional nature of the data, it is difficult to make causal inferences about the relationships between music listening and substance use and aggression. It is possible that frequent exposure to rap music significantly contributes to positive values towards substance use and violence. It is also possible that individuals who often listen to rap music view substance use and violence more positively prior to listening to this genre of music; music listening thus at most reinforces these values. Alternatively, substance use, aggression, and music listening may be independent constructs but share common “third factors.” Finally, our study sample may not be representative of all community college students because our study focused on students aged 25 or younger attending daytime classes. Neither may our study findings be generalized to college students in general, as a large proportion of our survey sample (62%) was non-white. Nor may the study findings be generalized to young people who do not attend colleges. Studies with longitudinal designs and general population samples are needed to better understand the causal or dynamic relations between music listening and behaviors of substance use and aggression among young people.

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Old 04-12-2018, 11:43 AM   #118
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to be fair fuzzy said it seems to attract criminals

not that listening to rap causes criminal behavior

I don't see this as any different than dinosaur guitar bands attracting bohemians in their time and place as well

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:07 PM   #119
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it's probably as a simple as rap listeners are largely black, and black people in the USA are more likely to be arrested and convicted of violent crimes. why they are more likely to be criminals is a huge sociological debate but it certainly has nothing to do with rap music. therefore, this study has nothing to do with fuzzy's argument that rap music itself is associated with violence independent of other factors (e.g. "the white people i know who like rap are mostly criminals")

 
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:10 PM   #120
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glad we figured that out.
fuzzy do you need me to explain this more simply. i'd really like you to understand why this study is so majorly flawed. and it's not just this study - a large amount of psych studies have this same problem, and is why you shouldn't take articles at face value. it's a good starting point to examining a phenomenon because you can say "it seems like the are related in some way, although I can't tell how" but that's all it is.

 
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