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Old 02-18-2018, 09:18 PM   #61
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have it as comfort in the case of an emergency.
you're more likely to get shot by a home invader if you have a gun

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:22 PM   #62
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Well if you look at the stats, these public shootings have gone through the roof in recent years... Gun laws haven't changed in ages... There is something sick that's going on in the minds of the society.

This might sound hard for a lot of you guys to believe, because I know a lot of you guys are actually high IQ people... But I know people who spend 5-6 hours a day playing violent video games... These guys have been doing it their whole lives, and it's not an outlier. There's tons of people that do this... And the video games keep getting more and more realistic and lifelike.

I think there is a definite correlation.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:22 PM   #63
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gun laws haven't changed in years?

ever heard of the assault weapons ban? you just spew bullshit

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:23 PM   #64
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Well gun availability hasn't changed in America. It's been the same for decades and decades... But it's only been recently that we've seen these maniacs going on rampages... Something has to have changed.

Bill Maher was talking about this on his recent show this week... He thinks it has to do a lot with how doctors are prescribing psychotropic drugs to children into adulthood... These people never have a chance to be "normal"... An interesting idea nonetheless.

Either way, you can't deny the stunning increase of these events... So there's definitely something culturally that needs to be addressed and examined. It's not fair to put all the blames on the weaponry itself.
No, guns have been getting easier and easier to get as time goes on. Thanks, NRA.

It is obviously not the gun's fault, but if these people couldn't get guns their body counts would be much lower.

It's gun availability and the large amount of events causing at-risk people to think they could really do shooting. video games have nothing to do with it at all. there are seriously hundreds of studies about this.

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:24 PM   #65
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Either way, you can't deny the stunning increase of these events... So there's definitely something culturally that needs to be addressed and examined. It's not fair to put all the blames on the weaponry itself.
yeah it's not fair to blame guns and the gun industry and the NRA for this cultural problem, but it makes sense to blame call of duty. good thinking fuzzyroes

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:24 PM   #66
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Probably true... In these situations it's better to get the cops involved... But you never know what might transpire...Especially if you're the man of the house with a family. Gotta prepare for the worst.
it's far more likely someone in your house will get shot accidentally than that the gun will do literally anything else

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:26 PM   #67
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This might sound hard for a lot of you guys to believe, because I know a lot of you guys are actually high IQ people... But I know people who spend 5-6 hours a day playing violent video games... These guys have been doing it their whole lives, and it's not an outlier. There's tons of people that do this... And the video games keep getting more and more realistic and lifelike.

I think there is a definite correlation.
You disprove your own point. Why aren't all these people mass killers?

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:26 PM   #68
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There actually is some evidence that games can make people violent, but the real correlation is between games that are very frustrating, not between games which show violence.

a study from Germany a few years back showed people with violent predispositions seek out violent games

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:26 PM   #69
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yeah it's not fair to blame guns and the gun industry and the NRA for this cultural problem, but it makes sense to blame call of duty. good thinking fuzzyroes
yep. like i said, only in america do people blame virtual guns more than the real ones

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:27 PM   #70
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Video game culture is fucking HUGE... It's one form of physical media that is still growing and doing business like gangbusters... You look at the majority of the top bought games? It's all of these violent shooting massacre titles. I don't think children and teenagers should be spending the majority of their time fantasizing about shit like this, do you?

It's cancerous... And I know it's "unhip" to blame video games, but really... Most adults aren't even aware of these games that children and teens are playing... It's INCREDIBLY violent and ever increasingly lifelike.

I'm telling you guys, you ban these video games and there would be a dip in these violent nightmares... You have kids sitting all day long blasting peoples brains out... You don't think it's gonna reach their mind when they figure they have nothing left to lose?
you are such a blithering idiot

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:28 PM   #71
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looks guys fuzzy solved gun violence

why didn't researches ever think to look at video games

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:28 PM   #72
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I wouldn't want my little kid playing violent games because I do believe exposure to depictions of violence can be bad for your mental health. But it's an enormous and absurd fucking stretch to say that games cause people to murder people.

 
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fuzzy, 17 people really died right in the next town over from me. this is real life. we need real solutions. extensive background checks, mental health exams, licenses, and gun registration that requires renewals every so many years.

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:29 PM   #74
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I mean did Helter Skelter make Manson order all those killings

or was he just a fucking psychopath

 
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I wouldn't want my little kid playing violent games because I do believe exposure to depictions of violence can be bad for your mental health. But it's an enormous and absurd fucking stretch to say that games cause people to murder people.
absolutely agree

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:29 PM   #76
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or did the other Manson cause Columbine? jesus christ

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:30 PM   #77
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is radical Islamist terrorism fueled by Halo as well, or just white boy terrorism?

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:31 PM   #78
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it's too bad trump was too much of a chickenshit to address the public while in parkland

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:31 PM   #79
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400 years ago people were burning each other for being jews and witches and blasphemers. I wonder what shooters they were playing

 
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I don't disagree with this. I think it's astonishing that there isn't more of a screening process involved and I'd like to see that be implemented... But I think if you blame the guns that you're missing the bigger picture.

There's a spiritual deficit that has occurred with the fast-paced life with the "internet"... People haven't had time to examine the side affects of such a rapid increase in the way people live their lives... I knew tons of disturbed kids sprouting with anger growing up, hell I was one myself... We never thought of going and slaying innocent people. I could have easily got access to weaponry in my own house, it never crossed my mind in the slightest way.

There's a change... And unless you address that, violent crimes will continue to uptick regardless of the weapons available
a lot of that change has been pushed by the gun industry and the NRA

 
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:34 PM   #81
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I don't disagree with this. I think it's astonishing that there isn't more of a screening process involved and I'd like to see that be implemented... But I think if you blame the guns that you're missing the bigger picture.

There's a spiritual deficit that has occurred with the fast-paced life with the "internet"... People haven't had time to examine the side affects of such a rapid increase in the way people live their lives... I knew tons of disturbed kids sprouting with anger growing up, hell I was one myself... We never thought of going and slaying innocent people. I could have easily got access to weaponry in my own house, it never crossed my mind in the slightest way.

There's a change... And unless you address that, violent crimes will continue to uptick regardless of the weapons available
The USA isn't more violent than other countries. The violence is just more deadly. Because of guns.

 
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fuzzy are you aware that in the US, the GOP passed a law in the 90s making federal research on gun violence illegal?

 
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There actually is some evidence that games can make people violent, but the real correlation is between games that are very frustrating

I know that's right!

 
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I know that's right!
when I was a kid I remember getting so frustrated a few times I screamed, threw my controller across the room, etc. and had my N64 taken away. what was I playing? Diddy Kong Racing. It was HARD.

 
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when I was a kid I remember getting so frustrated a few times I screamed, threw my controller across the room, etc. and had my N64 taken away. what was I playing? Diddy Kong Racing. It was HARD.
same thing but with yoshi's story. FUCK that game!

 
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There's gonna be walkouts and shit coming up. Marching. We'll see what happens. I hope Parkland is the last straw but I'm not very optimistic. I think it is possible that Marco Rubio will get tossed on his ass next election of (when) he keeps talking all that NRA cash

 
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i am hoping people will finally demand real change this time. people are very vocally expressing how fed up they are with "thoughts and prayers"

 
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at this point I can't imagine that any event like this would turn things around. the 2nd Amendment historically wasn't even viewed as an unlimited personal right to own guns, it was always viewed in the context of being in a militia until the last half century when the NRA became an evil special interest group and changed public opinion all the way up to SCOTUS

 
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I shouldn't even bother though... I'm gonna be misconstrued. I would like to see a better screening process in the United States... But that seems like it would only be a band-aid on the bigger issue at hand...

The thing society needs to get down to is why there is such an astonishing increase in this violent behavior... What is possibly going through a persons mind to unleash such hatred and violence? That is the big issue, and unless that gets solved, these reckless wastes of life will continue to happen and happen...

And think of it... If someone is THAT determined that they're literally going to go on a murdering spree, do you not thing they'll find access to weaponry whether or not they can legally purchase it or not? These are extreme acts... Do you think simply not being allowed to by weaponry at Walmart will deter these utter maniacs? If you do, you're fucking dreaming and delusional.. I'll tell you that right now. They'll just easily get the weapons on the black-market... That's the dilemma about it all.
you are 100% wrong though. there has been an astonishing DECREASE in violent crime in the US in the last few decades. This specific type of crime has escalated because of HOW EASY it is to get assault weapons

 
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They'll just easily get the weapons on the black-market... That's the dilemma about it all.
yeah, that must be why the UK, Canada, and Australia have so many mass shootings. Cause people just get guns illegally. Oh wait, they have strict gun laws and it does in fact stop violence

 
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