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Old 02-14-2018, 02:13 AM   #211
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The delicious thing about this is the Pumpkins countdown to whatever prefabricated little PR stunt. D'Arcy, well done throwing a wrench into this sad machine.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:15 AM   #212
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#Imwithher

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:24 AM   #213
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Aw man, the SP subreddit is fucked

The mods are deleting articles now

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:50 AM   #214
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Wow shit got dark.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:52 AM   #215
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Old 02-14-2018, 02:53 AM   #216
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Mr. Buchanan, if you talk to Darcy again I hope you tell her that the truest TSP fans in the world (us) support and honor her. She is a heroine.

Fuck Billy.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:00 AM   #217
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this tour has been planned for some time. I don't think Darcy or the whining netphoria crybabies realise that.
it's probably been planned since bill and jim started recording in LA.

if darcy put as much effort into travelling to LA for a meeting as she has in complaining to the media then they'd probably be rehearsing with her now.
it seems dishonest of her to only give certain bits of information to the media. she neglected to mention that she had appointments with doctors. people don't spend all that money on advertising only to wait around and see if someone's fit enough to play.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:05 AM   #218
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Can anyone explain this?



"...I said I'm not wanted in the studio."






"I was really upset that I couldn't come out to LA to work w/you guys"






 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:07 AM   #219
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yea caic but it's not about that.

darcy's story is definitely lacking, but the point that matters here is that this has been branded as a 'real thing' reunion, and was made to sound very exciting for the fans and even d'arcy herself apparently, when in reality it was all another half assed rushed solo corgan project under the sp moniker.

that is what's dishonest, and that is what's unacceptable. all of billy's shithead behavior and shit about selling t-shirts and proving he's 'able to compete' and going for broadway production values is just the icing on the cake.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:10 AM   #220
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Ok so this is "Lennon Remembers" after all. Goodbye full reunion. And I'm only 1/3 through.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:10 AM   #221
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Lol bEllis broke cos of wrestling. that's why he's selling teas and shitthradararthra.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:16 AM   #222
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this tour has been planned for some time.


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But you said you enjoyed the mental sparring there for a little while?

Oh yeah, I really enjoyed our friendship. I really, really did, so much, but he’s just the same. If you say one tiny thing from the past. you have to see the texts to understand, but when it comes to money, he’s just disgusting. We almost immediately started talking about a reunion, because he said to me: ‘Well, maybe you know, and maybe you don’t, but with this wrestling thing I kind of got myself a bit into a bit of a hole.’ That was one of the first things he said to me, it was like the second conversation we had, but we didn’t want to do the ‘reunion.’ We both wanted to do the band again, be a band again, not just do a reunion. Billy always said, ‘Oh, I’ll never do just a reunion and play the oldies just for money.’ That’s exactly what it is now.



 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:30 AM   #223
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BRAKING NEWS: MONTY CHIMES IN

MonteLDS @MonteLDS

For what it's worth I personally know that WPC made effort to get D'Arcy back with them. I wish her well and hope that maybe one day it can all work out

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:31 AM   #224
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So let me get this straight. A random instagram account that Airplane Mode follows which shared what seemed to be a personal pic of Billy in a white outfit/top hat a few days ago, also just shared a photo of a bloody D'arcy, and is now private.


Nothing to see here folks.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:35 AM   #225
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One thing is certain...Billy will never forgive D'Arcy for this interview and the leaked text messages.


Is he actually still calling his book a "spiritual memoir" ?

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:35 AM   #226
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:36 AM   #227
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Strawberry confirmed that white outfit/top hat was for the Aeronaut video tho. After that I stopped following far account.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:39 AM   #228
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This is fucking insane holy shit.

D'arcy seems like a really genuine person. Her timeline/narrative is a bit wonky, but I'm inclined to trust her over willers

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lol I love when reddit mods take their jobs way too seriously and try to censor and push a narrative. like they're working for some sort of state-run newspaper

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Someone post that video of Darcy kicking over a mic stand after a snide remark from billy. Total mic drop. So bad ass. I believe it’s right before they play xyu in Rio?


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Can someone describe the picture that was deleted puh-lease?
Edif: Ok passed out and injured D’arcy. Creepy / desperate.

Also INCREDIBLE interview. Wowsers.
Didn't get to see it - was it a recent photo or from the 90s?

that's really, really fucked up though. i wonder who's in charge of that account. and why they think someone being passed out drunk is enough to smear them...lots of people drink. jimbo did so much coke during the SD sessions he went blind. corgan went on a molly bender after his mom died, etc. doing drugs doesn't make you an invalid source

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:40 AM   #229
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zerozed1 WHAT PROFITS A WOMAN IF SHE GAINS NOTHING AND STILL LOSES HER SOUL? #smashingpumpkins

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That's 100% Corgan, who else writes like that. Pathetic

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:41 AM   #230
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D'arcy speaks about a de facto abusive relationship, and someone mysteriously leaks a picture of her at her most vulnerable to try and discredit her. Not working.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:44 AM   #231
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:51 AM   #232
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D'arcy speaks about a de facto abusive relationship, and someone mysteriously leaks a picture of her at her most vulnerable to try and discredit her. Not working.






"The things I have heard from people near her have been worrying me for months, including a horrific photo….. Now I’m so mad because there are so many people working hard on this and she basically just tried to ruin everything and ruin all the excitement because she perceived that what was being handed to her on a silver platter was not enough."


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Old 02-14-2018, 03:52 AM   #233
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I honestly wonder about the scope of all this. Is the general public actually reading this and caring? Or is it just for us losers?

I have this feeling most people don't even care, probably don't know Billy's name, even, and just wanna hear 1979

Or like that D'arcy photo that some asshole leaked. Probably only like 30 people know about that account and its significance

 
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Or like that D'arcy photo that some asshole leaked. Probably only like 30 people know about that account and its significance
And Airplane Mode..

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:04 AM   #235
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:05 AM   #236
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I honestly wonder about the scope of all this. Is the general public actually reading this and caring? Or is it just for us losers?

I have this feeling most people don't even care, probably don't know Billy's name, even, and just wanna hear 1979

Or like that D'arcy photo that some asshole leaked. Probably only like 30 people know about that account and its significance
It's on a lot of sites. AV Club, NME, Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, as well as Esquire, CBS News, Toronto Sun... whether any of those outlets count as something read by "the general public" is not something I'm sure about.

What would be funny if Billy called D'arcy and the two of them just started laughing about how ridiculous the whole thing has become. And now that everything is out in the open, the air is finally clear. Let bygones be bygones.

She did say, about being in the reunion, "I would love to, but Billy will never do it. Not in this lifetime" so it does seem like the ball is in his court.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:08 AM   #237
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What would be funny if Billy called D'arcy and the two of them just started laughing about how ridiculous the whole thing has become. And now that everything is out in the open, the air is finally clear. Let bygones be bygones.



 
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:12 AM   #238
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Can anyone explain this?



"...I said I'm not wanted in the studio."






"I was really upset that I couldn't come out to LA to work w/you guys"





I think it makes sense because it's all smoke and mirrors with Bill. He will keep her half-informed so she can't claim she didn't know about it or wasn't welcome, but at the same time he will be very meticulous about the timing and way he gives her that information in order to manufacture the outcome he wants with plausible deniability. If you've ever been in an ongoing abusive situation, you read her interview and you know straight away that she's telling nothing but the truth.

This is why this is so refreshing and vindicating. Honestly, I don't hate Billy - I think he's a very damaged person who has only known abuse in life, both as a victim in his childhood and as a perpetrator. He is not monster, he's not evil incarnate, and I have no desire to see him in pain in a act of useless revenge. And at no point did I feel that D'arcy was being vengeful here, that she had allowed the abuse he inflicted on her to turn her into an ugly person who revels in the destruction of others. Despite of all the heavy shit she talks about, the interview is strangely uplifting because it sets things straight; it exposes all the double talk he hides behind to hurt people, so he's rendered powerless to do so again.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:16 AM   #239
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I seen the photo and to post that along with it is truly disgusting and disturbing.

 
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:22 AM   #240
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1. Has not played music of any description in a public capacity for 20 years (let that sink in)
2. Mental breakdown, panic attacks, by own admission (from pressures of being in this band touring).
3. Struggles with substance abuse over a number of years. Tried to kill herself.
4. Has been arrested, caught drunk driving, jail.
5. Says it’s a lie she has been invited, or that billy wants her on tours then literally talks about invitations (posts proof)
6. Never friends / enjoyed friendship
7. Identifies as musician. Hasn’t played publically for 20 years. Listens to radio, doesn’t recognise her own music.
8. Is literally physically unable to play bass, whilst band is working on most recent demos
9. Casual racism.

Despite this feels it is unreasonable under these circumstances for Billy / the rest of the band not to invite her carte blanche to be full time touring bassist.
Then Billy literally offers a chance to be involved in the tour in whatever capacity she want’s from just 1 song to 7 songs. Offers her own bus. Doesn’t have to play ever gig if she doesn’t want to. Doesn’t have to sing even. This doesn’t sound like the band trying to push her away, they’re just saying they don’t think it’s in the best interest of anyone to be invited back in as a full time member right at that second…

For me at least Billy looks like he’s made a very sensible decision here.

 
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