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Old 03-29-2018, 10:49 AM   #181
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EPs are great if you can release often and use it as an opportunity to experiment with dif directions or whatever. if they're good then people will listen to them and the pitchforks of this world will write about them so you dont have to say or do outlandish things to get talked about . win win

BILLY being billy will probably release one half baked EP which no-one likes then a year later maybe release another which would be better than the previous one if not for one terrible and very obvious flaw before declaring that :

the market doesn't resonate with an EP style delivery system. i've released 2 EPs now and people close to me tell me that this is the greatest music i've ever done..which is saying something because, you know, and I wouldn't say this myself but I know people would.. i'm probably the greatest living musician. the artist part of me says yeah sure release EPs but, and you know this, I'm a very successful business person as well as an artist.. some would say The artist.. but I digress, it's not a system that works.. what works is the latest hair brained scheme I've come up with as what I believe people want because I'm not prepared to confront the real issue. The real issue being that my band is shit, my riffs are shit, my songs are shit and I can't sing for shit.

 
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:56 PM   #182
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my riffs are shit, .
hard to write a riff when you write songs on the piano.

 
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:59 PM   #183
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my my my is this a fan forum? more like a hate forum! what's the point of all this negativity?

 
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:37 PM   #184
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hard to write a riff when you write songs on the piano.
What about a piano riff?

 
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:42 PM   #185
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What about a piano riff?
i'm going to start referring to certain classical piano work as "riff rock" just for the laughs

 
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:42 PM   #186
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I think this is on point.

Billy always reacts to a misconception as to why his previous album failed commercially.

Adore: Overlong and maudlin - Billy’s response: We need LOUD and AGGRESSIVE
Machina: Poor song choice, obscure production - Billy’s response: FUN POP album
Zwan: Poor song choice, saccharine production - Billy’s response: AVANTE GARDE
TFE: No solid singles, obscure production - Billy’s response: BRING BACK SP!
Zeitgeist: Horrid vocal mixing - Billy’s response: ALBUM IS DEAD
TBK: Stylistically odd, slow release, bad vocal mix - Billy’s response - BRING BACK SP!
Oceania: Mediocre songs and performance - Billy’s response - ADHD RAWK album!
MTAE: Short, mixed song quality, bad lyrics - Billy’s response: ALBUM IS DEAD!
Ogilala: Good but lacked diversity - Billy’s response: BRING BACK SP! ALBUM IS DEAD!

In between and live, he’s written and recorded some great music. He’s just lost sight and diverged from his audience.
It will be interesting if Billy ever does the box sets he promised once the rights revert back to him.

For example, the full Teargarden + Oceania + extras remixed and reordered could be pretty interesting.

Same with a Zwan box set that has every song they ever did.

I would even be interested in a remixed/remastered Zeitgeist that makes it sound like a normal album.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:56 AM   #187
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You are kidding yourself if you think any of those things will ever happen

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:21 AM   #188
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if you're not a real fan, then why are you even here?

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:27 AM   #189
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exactly. so sick of all the negativity. corgan rules!

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:28 AM   #190
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PAMPKINS ROOLZ!

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:28 AM   #191
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HEY BILLY BIIIIIIIIIIIIILLYYYYYYYYYYYYY LOOK AT ME IM DEFENDING YOU ONLIEN PLEASE BE MY FIREND! ill be cool

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:30 PM   #192
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he just listed all the songs on instagram with a bunch of blab blab suck me off blab blab

just put out the music old fart.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:14 PM   #193
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bg87TGoD...williampcorgan
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neptulius
martinets
apologia (poppies wil...ake them sleep)
to scatter one's own
jubilee
cri de couer
buffalo boy
dancehall
hard times
faithless darling

baby don't go
nights in white satin
darling, vlementine
til i kissed you
rider (sunset symphony)***
colisseum***
like lambs***
fragile, the spark***
letters to the void***
anon***
duster/***
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One of the wonderful things about this new age of social media is that I get a very clear sense of what others are interested in as it pertains to my personal or public life. And one must avoid the Pavlovian response to speak to the greater interest at the detriment of those who truly are interested in artistic process (which time has shown is probably the least interesting detail to most). So here, over two screencaps, I have listed the songs collected for this newest solo album (named, but not yet revealed). Page 1 having the newer songs written plus those that are to be re-recorded, Page 2 has the cover songs I’d like to take a stab it (time permitting) and also those (the ones with ***) that I’m satisfied with; having cut the masters during my last trip to Nashville.
Now, I realize a list doesn’t do much if you haven’t heard the music, but it does show the work involved and that there will be new music coming soon in addition to the 8 @smashingpumpkins songs being mixed. And I’ve stated before, given that I’d like this solo album to be 16 songs (or a true double vinyl for collectors) I’m heavily leaning towards releasing 4 ep’s that would later be collected together; for it’s hard for me to imagine that 16 acoustic songs could be given a fair listen far past those of you reading this post. Which takes me back to my original thought in this, which is if you know many won’t hear-listen-or be particularly affected in this time-space, why bother(?) the answer is simple: It’s who I am (a writer/musician) and life’s greatest personal joy is to be who you are without reservation. And make no mistake, I am lucky as almost all my released work, given space and time, is being found, discovered, and celebrated where it deserves to be. And it is because of kind people like you, who actually read to the bottom of these posts, that such dissemination is possible. So if life is a long novel, I still have many, many chapters to write, and lost pages to pull up from the dust. Because when all is said and done, I do plan on leaving a full testament to what I saw and understood here, and I’m cool if that means only you and the aliens will understand. The rest, in God’s hands.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:44 PM   #194
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It will be interesting if Billy ever does the box sets he promised once the rights revert back to him.

For example, the full Teargarden + Oceania + extras remixed and reordered could be pretty interesting.

Same with a Zwan box set that has every song they ever did.

I would even be interested in a remixed/remastered Zeitgeist that makes it sound like a normal album.
The rights to Mary Star of the Sea, TheFutureEmbrace, and Zeitgeist went back to Billy in 2014. He mentioned a few months ago he did not want to release those until the Machina reissue got completed. The label has zero interest in reissuing Machina, therefore, we will not see any reissues of Zwan, TFE, or Zeitgeist.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 02:23 PM   #195
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Because when all is said and done, I do plan on leaving a full testament to what I saw and understood here, and I’m cool if that means only you and the aliens will understand. The rest, in God’s hands.

How pretentious. How long before Billy declares that he is actually the second coming of Christ?

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 03:59 PM   #196
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How long before Billy declares that he is actually the second coming of Christ?




 
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:14 PM   #197
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Isn't Neptulius the original title for Pisces Iscariot? Nice going Billy-boy.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:58 PM   #198
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One of the wonderful things about this new age of social media is that I get a very clear sense of what others are interested in as it pertains to my personal or public life.

And I’ve stated before, given that I’d like this solo album to be 16 songs (or a true double vinyl for collectors) I’m heavily leaning towards releasing 4 ep’s that would later be collected together; for it’s hard for me to imagine that 16 acoustic songs could be given a fair listen far past those of you reading this post. Which takes me back to my original thought in this, which is if you know many won’t hear-listen-or be particularly affected in this time-space, why bother(?) the answer is simple: It’s who I am (a writer/musician) and life’s greatest personal joy is to be who you are without reservation.

Because when all is said and done, I do plan on leaving a full testament to what I saw and understood here, and I’m cool if that means only you and the aliens will understand. The rest, in God’s hands.
I don't understand how someone can be this insufferable

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 09:53 PM   #199
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Who's more crazy, D'arcy or Billy...

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:18 PM   #200
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Capo = "i've run out of ideas". Funnily enough I remember reading an interview in the 90's where he said he hated playing with a capo too.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:57 PM   #201
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I've never seen him use a capo onstage until 2007

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:59 PM   #202
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pretty sure Of a Broken Heart is played with a capo. I can't think of a single SP1 song which uses one though

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:37 PM   #203
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Capo = "i've run out of ideas".
That's just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:38 PM   #204
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lots of people are prejudiced against capos

 
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Old 03-31-2018, 06:01 AM   #205
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Capo = "i've run out of ideas". Funnily enough I remember reading an interview in the 90's where he said he hated playing with a capo too.
Two steps away from forming his own acoustic smashing pumpkins tribute band. YouTube videos of him on acoustic guitar, Jeff on ukulele and some random white guy with dreadlocks on a cajon. Awkward mashups of pumpkins songs and a faux-moving cover of the fresh prince of bel aire theme tune

 
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It's time for you to leave Netphoria

 
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Old 03-31-2018, 10:09 AM   #207
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Here's Bob Dylan apparently running out of ideas in 1963...

 
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I've never seen him use a capo onstage until 2007
this is true

 
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Old 03-31-2018, 11:58 AM   #209
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Here's Bob Dylan apparently running out of ideas in 1963...
billy is not a folk singer.

in fact his folk album is sitting in a can...

 
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Old 03-31-2018, 12:28 PM   #210
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billy is not a folk singer.

in fact his folk album is sitting in a can...
I hear it's one of the greatest things he's ever written.

 
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