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Old 10-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #1
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Default Pug (dennis flemion remix) listen

Ash from SPUK uploaded this on facebook. Anyone know anything about it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwELkpIiKcg

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:28 PM   #2
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that's cool. this is the kind of stuff i wanna see on the re-issues.

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:40 PM   #3
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Where did this come from?

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:55 PM   #4
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Has a TEITBITE feel.

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 05:54 PM   #5
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Where the fuck did this come from?

And Billy, please put a lot of this kind of stuff on the Adore reissue. It could easily be the best of the reissues.

This is fucking GREAT

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:08 PM   #6
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whoa, this came completely out of nowhere. sounds nice...

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:23 PM   #7
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Unbelievably good!

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:55 PM   #8
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Kind of a garbage remix.

Note to rock musicians: stop using presets and default effect patterns. It makes you look like a bedroom producer

This uses 2 presets from Absynth and 3 automated filter patterns from Halion. To translate to the guitar world, this would be like buying one of those digital guitar pedals and using four or five presets on one of those


At the very least at least it was an actual remix unlike a lot of SP remixes which don't even remotely use the stems of the original


One thing of note, the presets were from an older version of Absynth so this may actually be an older remix and not recent

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Old 10-03-2012, 10:14 PM   #9
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Pretty cool

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:45 PM   #10
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Kind of a garbage remix.

Note to rock musicians: stop using presets and default effect patterns. It makes you look like a bedroom producer

This uses 2 presets from Absynth and 3 automated filter patterns from Halion. To translate to the guitar world, this would be like buying one of those digital guitar pedals and using four or five presets on one of those


At the very least at least it was an actual remix unlike a lot of SP remixes which don't even remotely use the stems of the original


One thing of note, the presets were from an older version of Absynth so this may actually be an older remix and not recent

I think you missed the point of the remix... it sounds like it was an early, working mix to play with some ideas before the final layout and arrangement of the song came to fruition. You can tell because the vocals aren't the vocals from the final album version, and there are even some extra words that didn't make the final cut.

I think it's awesome to hear the brainstorming in action.

 
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:47 PM   #11
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http://www.mediafire.com/?o031vdmva1wd0mp

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:19 AM   #12
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not bad

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:24 PM   #13
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sounds awesome, does anyone know where this materialized from?

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:49 PM   #14
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Sounds like really generic Hollywood production music - pretty much like all the dance and electronic influenced shit they were passing off as contemporary MTV "alt rock" back in 1998. Like fucking 6 Underground by Sneaker Pimps. Yawwwn. I think the "presets" comment pretty much hit it on the spot.

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:15 PM   #15
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Sounds like really generic Hollywood production music - pretty much like all the dance and electronic influenced shit they were passing off as contemporary MTV "alt rock" back in 1998. Like fucking 6 Underground by Sneaker Pimps. Yawwwn. I think the "presets" comment pretty much hit it on the spot.
I see what you're saying with the slick, generic, preset sound of the remix...but the 6 Underground comparison is pretty off base...not at all the same as sleek Hollywood production. It's much grittier...it's based on the sample here from a 1964 John Barry song (6 Underground sample appears around 1:03) -




...and also samples the intro drumbeat of this 1973 Little Feat song -





Also have read, iirc, that the Sneaker Pimps album was very low budget & DIY.

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:22 PM   #16
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wasn't this on a single?

 
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:39 PM   #17
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wasn't this on a single?
um no

are you on crack?

 
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:27 AM   #18
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Wow... I absolutely love this vocal take

The prominent cellos work well too

The kinda thing that tempts me to do the Adore revisionism thing

 
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:10 AM   #19
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This is fantastic. Not bothered with the other re-issues, but can't wait for Adore and Machina outtakes...

 
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:25 PM   #20
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where the hell did this come from anyways? not at all bad.

thanks for the dl D

 
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:36 PM   #21
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Yeah this ain't bad. I definitely prefer the original, but, as someone else noted above, you kind of see a bit of the creative process going on before the final cut is made or chosen.

 
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:30 PM   #22
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God please let there be more unreleased material like this

 
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:39 PM   #23
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This could have been released through SPRC and rekindled our hopes for the program.

 
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:59 PM   #24
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If this is on the Adore re-issue, consider it bought.

 
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:47 AM   #25
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coolio.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:09 AM   #26
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Ash posted a bit more info on facebook:

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I received this from a mutual friend of Dennis, Jimmy and myself. Dennis was the one who handled the business side of things, unfortunately his tragic death has meant that things have come to a stand still. The Frogs were going through a time of releasing all of their original 'mail order only' albums digitally, two new albums had only just been released, more was on the cards. I was made aware that a couple of people were doing all they can to go through all the material they can find to make a digital archive. I can't say too much right now, but I will say i've received Frogs material over the last couple of years that was never going to be made available publicly, plus material that hadn't been made public yet. That side of the business is still to be determined, plans are afoot though, i'll be sending some material over myself soon to be added. My friend sent me a message saying he discovered a CD with this remix on the tracklist and asked if I knew anything about it, obviously I never even knew it existed. Within 15 minutes I was listening to a FLAC rip which was sent to me.

 
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:15 AM   #27
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I received this from a mutual friend of Dennis, Jimmy and myself. Dennis was the one who handled the business side of things, unfortunately his tragic death has meant that things have come to a stand still. The Frogs were going through a time of releasing all of their original 'mail order only' albums digitally, two new albums had only just been released, more was on the cards. I was made aware that a couple of people were doing all they could to go through all the material they can find to make a digital archive. I can't say too much right now, but I will say i've received Frogs material over the last couple of years that was never going to be made available publicly, plus material that hadn't been made public yet. That side of the business is still to be determined, plans are afoot though, i'll be sending some material over myself soon to be added. My friend knows I'm a big Smashing Pumpkins fan, so he sent me a message when he found it. He said that he discovered a CD with this remix on the tracklist and asked if I knew anything about it, obviously I never even knew it existed. Within 15 minutes I was listening to a FLAC rip which he sent to me.

It's as simple as that really, no dodgy deals, no ebay find, no rooting around the Sadlands dumpsters. Just an awesome find on a CD by someone archiving and cataloguing all the unreleased Frogs material.

 
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:18 AM   #28
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ash from the o-board? he runs the frog's site right? i used to talk to him a lot

 
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ash from the o-board? he runs the frog's site right? i used to talk to him a lot
That's me, long time no see

 
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Ash posted a bit more info on facebook:
You beat me too it, I was hoping to clear up some of my terrible grammar to make it slightly less terrible :P

 
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