McCain picks Sarah Palin as VP

[Gish08]

Originally Posted by Debaser

Palin would've never been picked if she was a male. That tells you all you need to know about her credentials and the political calculating of the McCain campaign. This was not a decision based on who would be best for governing, but who would be best at grabbing the media cycle and pull at hillary voters.

This should backfire.

What sucks is that McCain had it good. He always had the opportunity to say "if Obama picks x, I pick y" because his convention is last. If McCain had to pick first I think it would have been someone totally different.

I agree though, he's playing all of his cards in the angry Hillary camp. Quite frankly that does not sound good for his campaign if you think about it.

[JokeyLoki]

How is it ok to say that Palin doesn't have the experience necessary to be VP, and write off Obama's lack of experience?

[Future Boy]

He just did a world tour and got experience, please try and keep up Jokey.

[Esty]

Why is this a good pick for him FB?

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by jm9843

It's really not the same thing at all.

No, of course not. I dont know what I was thinking there.

[Gish08]

Originally Posted by JokeyLoki

How is it ok to say that Palin doesn't have the experience necessary to be VP, and write off Obama's lack of experience?

It's not the fact that people are writing it off, it's the fact that she has even less.

Originally Posted by Future Boy

He just did a world tour and got experience, please try and keep up Jokey.

This post makes absolutely no sense and you are a complete retard.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Caine Walker

"tucker", "spencer", "madison"

those are odd names?

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by Esty

Why is this a good pick for him FB?

I never said it was. One thing, as BLoser just pointed out, how is the Obama campaign going to attack her inexperience without opening up that attack on themselves. She's meat for the base, that's another. I just don't see how it hurts. As if VP picks arent politically motivated, of all the stupid things to say.

[Caine Walker]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

those are odd names?

no, those are stupid names.

[JokeyLoki]

Originally Posted by Gish08

It's not the fact that people are writing it off, it's the fact that she has even less.

Not by much...

[JokeyLoki]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

As if VP picks arent politically motivated, of all the stupid things to say.

Exactly. Complaining about a politically motivated VP pick is like complaining that the grass is green or the sky is blue.

[Esty]

Originally Posted by JokeyLoki

Exactly. Complaining about a politically motivated VP pick is like complaining that the grass is green or the sky is blue.

Or that you're a stupid fuck. I stopped bitching about that a lot time ago.

[Esty]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

I never said it was. One thing, as BLoser just pointed out, how is the Obama campaign going to attack her inexperience without opening up that attack on themselves. She's meat for the base, that's another. I just don't see how it hurts. As if VP picks arent politically motivated, of all the stupid things to say.

I was curious how you saw the pick choice, and you weren't saying that in this thread, just messing around with others.

On that note, I'll bitch slap your ass later. Tell Sharon I said "hi".

[Caine Walker]

you guys are ridiculous. the obama campaign won't "go after" her "inexperience." if anything, they'll just try to use it as a balancing point.

jesus.

[Gish08]

Originally Posted by JokeyLoki

Not by much...

Obama has well over ten years. First he represented one of the biggest states in the country as a state senator and then he became a US senator. He also has a solid law background.

Palin was a mayor of a couple dinky towns before she got voted into the Governor's seat. Big deal. You want to talk about lack of experience?

And even if I'd instead agree with you and say it isn't by much overall, it COMPLETELY nullifies McCain's "Obama has no experience" argument. Not too long ago McCain was saying his ticket would represent just that, but he picked someone totally opposite, whereas Dems were always open to outsiders.

So now basically McCain has these two major arguments:

-Hillary lost, and my running mate has a vagina;
and
-Drill more and drill now, even though my running mate agreed with Obama on many things pertaining to energy at the beginning of August.

Good luck with that. I think this will eventually backfire.

[jm9843]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

No, of course not. I dont know what I was thinking there.

An experienced VP like Biden compliments a so-called inexperienced candidate with the pedigree of an Obama. And at the same time, it doesn't compromise his message of change because final decisions will be Obama's alone. Biden will effectively advise him on foreign policy and provide insight into Washington bureaucracy.

McCain/Palin is the inverse of that. Of course, that poses a real problem if the 72 year old McCain were to "bite the big one" and she'd have to step into office.

Like I said, it's not at all the same.

[JokeyLoki]

Originally Posted by Esty

Or that you're a stupid fuck. I stopped bitching about that a lot time ago.

You're not the only person bitching about it...

[sppunk]

I'm glad Palin supports drilling in ANWR though, because an overwhelming majority of Alaskans themselves want ANWR drilled.

[Debaser]

Originally Posted by JokeyLoki

How is it ok to say that Palin doesn't have the experience necessary to be VP, and write off Obama's lack of experience?

It's not an argument that I'm making.

The real argument is to point out the disingenuousness of McCain for all this time criticizing Obama for lack of experience and unreadiness and then to pick Palin.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Debaser

Palin would've never been picked if she was a male. That tells you all you need to know about her credentials and the political calculating of the McCain campaign.

Would Obama have been picked if he were white?

[Debaser]

Yes.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Gish08

-Drill more and drill now, even though my running mate agreed with Obama on many things pertaining to energy at the beginning of August.

Good luck with that. I think this will eventually backfire.

Look at the things she agreed with - she was happy to have him "on board" with certain issues which she always supported. Which, by the way, the McCain campaign also supports.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Debaser

Yes.

I disagree. I think his race set him apart from the white men.

[Debaser]

Yeah the democrats were so desperate to lock up that black vote that they didn't have locked up anyways.

[jm9843]

http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinVikings.jpg

[JokeyLoki]

So McCain has the Viking vote now?

[Caine Walker]

oh boy. these next couple months are going to be fun.

[Eulogy]

FB, you're kinda grasping at straws here, aren't you? McCain's main criticism of Obama, which seemed to be working, was that he was inexperienced. So then he picks a running mate who clearly could not be president (if he wins and dies, we're fucked, eh?). He took that criticism off the table. If the "experience" argument is gone, Obama benefits.

It is not as though Obama's #1 criticism of McCain was that he had too much experience. come on now.

[jm9843]

Yea baby if you've got it, flaunt it.

http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2...wwp-photo2.jpg

Classy!

http://www.grizzlybay.org/PalinBear.jpg

[topleybird]

I think he very much had his own death in mind when picking Palin. Unfortunately, I think he had also just watched Battlestar Galactica.