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Old 02-21-2021, 09:31 AM   #3691
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Old 02-22-2021, 06:49 AM   #3692
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May as well save Machina for 2030.

Turn his attention to Zeitgeist and Oceania - both reaching milestone anniversaries next year.

 
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Old 02-22-2021, 05:52 PM   #3693
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Sort of agree with that. Do it properly (art/live show) or not at all.

 
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Old 02-22-2021, 06:34 PM   #3694
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not quite, still 2 months or so away from a decade:
Oh god this announcement has to be peak Bilbo bullshit. It's got it all.

 
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Old 02-23-2021, 05:31 AM   #3695
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Oh god this announcement has to be peak Bilbo bullshit. It's got it all.
I havent rewatched it but isnt this the announcement where he admits people didn't like the mixes of Machina and Zeitgeist and holds his hands up laughing, like "yeah, I fucked that up!"

Cut to instagram 10 years later... "People said Zeitgeist sounded bad because they're not fans and also chemtrails. Trump 2024."

 
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Old 02-23-2021, 01:37 PM   #3696
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Oh god this announcement has to be peak Bilbo bullshit. It's got it all.
I bet that Oceania album will be a banger though!

 
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Old 02-23-2021, 04:43 PM   #3697
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would the machina reissue be the next metro dvd? :-(

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 01:06 AM   #3698
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i think that's recursion

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 01:12 AM   #3699
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i've been getting into the machina tour a bit lately thanks to the new videos. thots:

* rock on / lifetime get less and less pleasant every time i think about them. fucking grating and horrible

* BSBT actually fucking rips. especially the transition to double time

* MCIS/SD songs sound terrible with this distortion, unless reworked [a la tonight, blew away]

* it's a fun novelty seeing JC play an electric kit but it sounds fucking awful

* acoustic set is a bore. the europe version is too elaborate in all the wrong ways; the american version is just...dry

* pale scales is the fucking best

* imaging waiting for an encore and they bust out fuckin raindrops and sunshowers

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 04:48 AM   #3700
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* imaging waiting for an encore and they bust out fuckin raindrops and sunshowers
Imaging waiting for an encore and instead of busting out 1979, they just... don't come back on stage.

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 08:35 AM   #3701
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imagine dragon deez nuts across your face

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 08:37 AM   #3702
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I still believe in Machina Reissue. It's real. It's done, complete.. We're just waiting on WPC(?) to script the graphic novel and then Linda Strawberry to draw 100+pages of sequential art. They'll probably be done next week.

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:49 PM   #3703
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i've been getting into the machina tour a bit lately thanks to the new videos. thots:

* rock on / lifetime get less and less pleasant every time i think about them. fucking grating and horrible

* BSBT actually fucking rips. especially the transition to double time

* MCIS/SD songs sound terrible with this distortion, unless reworked [a la tonight, blew away]

* it's a fun novelty seeing JC play an electric kit but it sounds fucking awful

* acoustic set is a bore. the europe version is too elaborate in all the wrong ways; the american version is just...dry

* pale scales is the fucking best

* imaging waiting for an encore and they bust out fuckin raindrops and sunshowers

I wouldn't argue with any of this. Rock On was an abomination, to be sure.

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 02:12 PM   #3704
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Imploding Voice acoustic at Kokusai was amazing that one time he did it and I'll cut anyone who says otherwise

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 02:54 PM   #3705
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Old 02-24-2021, 03:18 PM   #3706
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I strongly suspect that to be redbull

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 03:28 PM   #3707
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I'm rhinowing?

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Old 02-24-2021, 05:29 PM   #3708
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oh fuck it's so good

 
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this acoustic drown w/ spacey Iha leads is excellent too

 
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Old 02-24-2021, 08:26 PM   #3710
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* imaging waiting for an encore and they bust out fuckin raindrops and sunshowers
i'm imagining it & am positively pink!

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:11 AM   #3711
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Imploding Voice acoustic at Kokusai was amazing that one time he did it and I'll cut anyone who says otherwise
The sort of golden clagnut, which makes visiting Netphoria for 20 years worthwhile.

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Old 02-25-2021, 07:43 AM   #3712
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At the Metro show, Bill says "The Last Song" was the last song he wrote for Mellon Collie.

Yet when he talked about 1979 (storytellers?) he said it was the last song he wrote for Mellon Collie.

Unusual for Bill to contradict himself like this, who to believe?

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 10:43 AM   #3713
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That Japan show is pretty cool in general, it's like an early precursor to the Euro tour structure a few months later with an opening acoustic set.

I quite like the covers from that era, Rock On has some really amazing drumming and Once In A Lifetime is quintessential Machina-era drop C heaviness

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 11:03 AM   #3714
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At the Metro show, Bill says "The Last Song" was the last song he wrote for Mellon Collie.

Yet when he talked about 1979 (storytellers?) he said it was the last song he wrote for Mellon Collie.

Unusual for Bill to contradict himself like this, who to believe?
Funny because neither 1979 or The Last Song were the last song he wrote for MCIS

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:23 PM   #3715
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1979 was the last song "in the studio" that he worked on for MCIS deadlines.

The covers were recorded at then end..
https://smashing-pumpkins-recording-...finite_Sadness

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:42 PM   #3716
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so what about this machina reissue, eh? fucking eh man!

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 01:53 PM   #3717
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haven't heard a word about it

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:30 PM   #3718
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I think the machina reissue would be cool. It's the only SP album they haven't reissued yet.
I don't consider the newer albums real smashing pumpkins.

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 04:20 PM   #3719
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1979 was the last song "in the studio" that he worked on for MCIS deadlines.

The covers were recorded at then end..
https://smashing-pumpkins-recording-...finite_Sadness
some of the songs on TAFH weren't even recorded during the MCIS sessions. I can't remember where they were done, but it was after, and you can clearly hear it on tracks like Aeroplane the song

 
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Old 02-25-2021, 04:37 PM   #3720
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I always took it to mean that The Last Song was the final song of the mellon collie era.

 
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