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10-17-2016, 10:44 PM | #91 |
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Forty straight minutes of Morpheus explaining the story concept in an empty space.
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10-17-2016, 10:45 PM | #92 |
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the matrix is frankenstein meets the allegory of the cave
the first one is classic though. I can't say I ever need to see it again, but it is like a cultural cornerstone |
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10-17-2016, 10:49 PM | #93 |
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By bringing gun and wire fu to Western audiences that hadn't been paying attention to Asian cinema?
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10-17-2016, 10:51 PM | #94 |
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you already know the answer is yes
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10-17-2016, 10:53 PM | #95 |
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I am only grateful for the first Max Payne game.
The rest, I think we could have done without. |
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10-17-2016, 10:53 PM | #96 |
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do people still like V for Vendetta or is that out of vogue at this point?
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10-17-2016, 10:56 PM | #97 |
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10-17-2016, 10:56 PM | #98 | |
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It's one of those movies that really shouldn't had had a sequel, though. Like, at the end when he's all like "hahaha fuck you Matrix I'm Digital Jesus now and I'm gonna fuck ur system up" and then flies toward the screen and the credits roll, just because that implies further story doesn't mean that you actually need to see the further story. It just works better when the continuation of the adventures is something left to inference for that sort of movie. For example, none of the fight scenes in any of the sequels had any tension or stakes, because at that point, you already know that Neo is digital Jesus and none of these NPCs he's fighting mean anything to him. The fights are more just demonstration of 2000s special effects than anything else. Even in movies of that sort, fight scenes should still be scenes, and need to advance the story or demonstrate character in some way, instead of just being interruptions to the flow of the story. The fight scenes in the first one told story. In the other ones they were just kinda there. |
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10-17-2016, 10:57 PM | #99 |
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10-17-2016, 10:58 PM | #100 |
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I understand why Alan Moore refuses to allow his name in the credits of Hollywood adaptations of his work.
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10-17-2016, 10:59 PM | #101 |
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I held a The Matrix Trilogy Box set not 24 hours ago.
Put it in a box with the rest of the DVDs i'll never need again. |
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10-17-2016, 11:01 PM | #102 | |
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I loved it when it came out. I haven't seen it in awhile but I doubt I would think it is laughably awful. Who knows I guess, but I remember it being done very beautifully and sublimely at parts. |
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10-17-2016, 11:02 PM | #103 |
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You'll be sorry when you realize that I hid the cure to cancer somewhere in the second act of Hollow Man and can't find the box in your new apartment after a move.
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10-17-2016, 11:03 PM | #104 |
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I remember Natalia Portman managing to produce a half-convincing British accent in a couple of scenes.
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10-17-2016, 11:04 PM | #105 |
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They should've gotten the other Natalie Portman. The one that comes with the accent built in.
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10-17-2016, 11:05 PM | #106 | |
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re: you guys ripping on the original Matrix plot
this James Cameron quote (about the original Terminator) actually says it better than I can: Quote:
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10-17-2016, 11:06 PM | #107 |
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art is artifice
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10-17-2016, 11:06 PM | #108 |
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i mean there's no sense in picking apart something that's obviously very sci-fi, and is only used as a plot device.
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10-17-2016, 11:08 PM | #109 |
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10-17-2016, 11:09 PM | #110 |
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how to go from mars colonization to the matrix in under 100 posts.
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10-17-2016, 11:09 PM | #111 |
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10-17-2016, 11:12 PM | #112 |
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bring down
the government they don't they don't speak for us |
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10-17-2016, 11:13 PM | #113 |
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i mean thom yorke's lazy eye is far worse than the matrix's plot holes, but he made it big, right?
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10-17-2016, 11:15 PM | #114 |
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when plots are internally inconsistent that bothers me, but I'm usually pretty good at accepting whatever devices the narrative wants me to take for granted. I'm along for the ride and I don't mind accepting the rules of a fictive universe. There's a reason a compelling narrative doesn't look much like most of our real life days.
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10-17-2016, 11:21 PM | #115 |
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The connection here is that colonizing Mars has about as much purpose as a Matrix sequel
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10-17-2016, 11:24 PM | #116 |
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if the Matrix sequels had caused a tech boom that spun off entire industries you would be correct
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10-17-2016, 11:24 PM | #117 |
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If the increase of funding for NASA is taken directly out of Warner Bros. studios' budget, much the better.
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10-17-2016, 11:25 PM | #118 |
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The James Cameron quote kind of hinges on how movies "just have to have plausibility."
Standards will differ from one person to the next, which is probably why movies aimed at children can afford to be a little more relaxed when it comes to things like character depth and coherence in general. |
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10-17-2016, 11:33 PM | #119 |
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One quote I like is "you can ask an audience to believe the impossible, but not the improbable." Like, you can have a your main character fly and shoot lasers from her eyes, but if she is a computer hacker who guesses the password for a high-security system on her first try by trying random letters, that's dumb.
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10-17-2016, 11:42 PM | #120 |
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It's okay if protected servers have a visual interface and "success screen" for backdoor entry, though.
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