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Old 02-27-2014, 05:28 AM   #1
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:16 AM   #2
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why isn't botz an option?

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:20 PM   #3
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What the hell does this mean. organized crime as in any system of allied criminals? terrorism is a tactic. this is one your most nonsensical comparisons yet

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:21 PM   #4
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which is more deadly: AIDS or car accidents?

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:25 PM   #5
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terrorism seems like it is usually perpetrated by organized criminals more than lone individuals

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:32 PM   #6
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I guess I meant terrorist groups vs. organized crime. Which does more damage to a community? Something like the mafia or a terrorist group. I'm making a distinction between acts of terrorism and types of organized crime.

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:33 PM   #7
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aren't they pretty much the same thing

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:33 PM   #8
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maybe one dresses better than the other idk

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:36 PM   #9
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what if you got AIDS by accident?

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:38 PM   #10
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I guess I meant terrorist groups vs. organized crime. Which does more damage to a community? Something like the mafia or a terrorist group. I'm making a distinction between acts of terrorism and types of organized crime.
like international terrorism? what are you talking about?

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:42 PM   #11
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ham sandwiches vs. hatred, which one causes blindness?

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:43 PM   #12
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probably the most prevalent form of organized crime in the US is gangs, and they definitely pose a much greater risk to the general populace than islamist radicals on the other side of the world, but gangs use terrorism as a primary tactic too

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:47 PM   #13
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some gangs use other tactics

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Old 02-27-2014, 06:13 PM   #14
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"Terrorism is the systematic use of violence (terror) as a means of coercion for political purposes."

"There is a tendency to distinguish organized crime from other forms of crimes, such as, white-collar crime, financial crimes, political crimes, war crime, state crimes and treason."

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:20 PM   #15
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"Terrorism is the systematic use of violence (terror) as a means of coercion for political purposes."

"There is a tendency to distinguish organized crime from other forms of crimes, such as, white-collar crime, financial crimes, political crimes, war crime, state crimes and treason."
yes, so then you understand why it doesn't make sense? you are comparing a kind of organization to a tactic. it's like comparing missile strikes to legislative bodies or something.

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:21 PM   #16
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it's like comparing missile strikes to legislative bodies or something.
don't give him any ideas...

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:22 PM   #17
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my assumption is that you are comparing the dangers of international political terrorists to the dangers of domestic crime organizations? I'm really not sure though

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:24 PM   #18
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I though it meant that terrorism falls somewhere under political crime. And they are saying that organized crime isn't necessarily political crime.

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:27 PM   #19
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why would you say political terrorists when terrorism itself is political? It said that terrorism is used for political purposes.

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:31 PM   #20
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I don't think you should separate them into two easily distinguishable evils since terrorist organizations operate largely in sync with organized crime everywhere.

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:53 PM   #21
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which is a better dinner option, huge sandwiches or shoes?

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:19 PM   #22
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I though it meant that terrorism falls somewhere under political crime. And they are saying that organized crime isn't necessarily political crime.
yeah, in terms of political meaning the interaction of human beings. I specifically meant in terms of national and international policy, but I was only trying to figure out what you meant. I still really have no idea. I think you might be being purposely nebulous to troll me but I'm not sure. I'm not sure about anything.

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:28 PM   #23
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so anyone can commit an act of terrorism. all it requires is that you use fear by way of violence to achieve a political end. e.g. Osama bin Laden orchestrated 9/11 because he had a specific set of political goals, like getting the US military off the Arabian peninsula. But if a gang in southside chicago shoots up a rival in front of his house in order to cow his buddies who are competing with them for the dope market in their neighborhood, that is also terrorism.

that's why I don't really understand what kind of dichotomy you are trying to draw. Al Qaeda is a criminal organization. So is the Mafia. So is a high school drug ring. So is the gang who shot up John Statistic in southside

 
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if a gang in southside chicago shoots up a rival in front of his house in order to cow his buddies who are competing with them for the dope market in their neighborhood, that is also terrorism.
Um no it's not. Are you trolling?

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:18 PM   #25
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Um no it's not. Are you trolling?
I might ask you the same question because that literally is what terrorism is. The use of fear by way of violence to achieve a political goal.

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:49 PM   #26
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because i'm bored...

both operate pretty much the same, funding themselves through drugs, coercion and being harmful to the community in general. but terrorists put a cherry on top by making killing of innocents more of a priority

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:52 PM   #27
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I might ask you the same question because that literally is what terrorism is. The use of fear by way of violence to achieve a political goal.
no silly, terrorism is when the turbany guys make explosions on busses DUH

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Old 02-27-2014, 09:54 PM   #28
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you're feeding off the american media's ankle deep portrayal of international terrorism. al qaeda is not interested in the slightest in killing americans just because they are there. the killing is just a tool to get political and military concessions. It just so happens that killing large numbers of people is a more effective tool than killing small numbers of people. But it's not about the killing. That's a reduction of the psychology of extremists in order to make them evil monsters we have to strike down, but it does not help us understand them or stop them

 
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:56 PM   #29
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like you can take out the mexican mafia but coke is still going to come across the border because one side loves money and one side loves getting high

you can take out a terrorist network and still some kid will still strap a bomb to his vest and walk to gaza... but the cycle is slightly less likely to repiclate itself as quickly because economic motivators >> zealotry

 
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but i mean don't get me wrong. both are essentially the same.. just shooting the shit here

 
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