International POLITICS - ongoing shitshow edition

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

>tries to greentext here

for real though, it's true. you're PROBABLY not racist if you're anti-racism. InfoWars has had people of different races on the show, for example. is there any evidence to suggest that him or his followers are racist?

some of my best friends are white

[smashingjj]

ok this is enough for today my stomach may not be able to handle more of this

[SpiritDesire]

Originally Posted by Disco King

Nobody has a "right" to a platform on somebody else's property. This is actually a fairly conservative, property-rights based argument.

He's still free to spread his filth through independent means, like his own server space, zines that he's free to hand out in public, etc. It's funny how right-wing extremists like Jones and Yiannopolous never opt for these independent, grassroots avenues that left-wing groups have been using for years, and instead cry about persecution when they aren't allowed to yell on somebody else's stage. It's ironic how socialists are actually respecting conservative property rights more than conservatives are.



This isn't really hypocritical, though; American civil rights prohibit discrimination, even by private entities, on the basis of social attributes such as race, nationality of origin, orientation, etc. Most liberal-democratic societies hold that preventing discrimination is a reasonable limitation of property rights to keep a free society.

There are no rules, however, against discriminating against people based on the content of their character, their values, or their views. People don't want Jones taken off media platforms because of his race, orientation, or any other protected class he belongs to. "Shitty people" are not a protected class.

Oh, no, I agree with that. No one has a "right" to a platform. Do whatever the fuck you want, you're a private business. I took a more moral and broad stance on this issue.
For the record, Milo isn't an extremist. the far right hates the guy. Plus, he's a provocateur. He says shit to offend you, I'd suggest not caring lol. I think he used to be funny and kinda cool, but he's losing relevancy now, especially after YouTube removed a bunch of his videos and that story barely got any news coverage.

I'm more in favour of a free market. If someone won't bake a cake for your gay wedding, go to another baker. They're the ones losing money anyway.

Also, I think socialists are more in favour of it because it suits their agenda. Almost never seen them do it before.

[SpiritDesire]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

ok this is enough for today my stomach may not be able to handle more of this

yeah even I'm bored now, gonna go make some fidget spinner videos on YouTube

later, virginz

[FoolofaTook]

troll alert

[SpiritDesire]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

troll alert

do you just call everyone you disagree with a troll? lol

[pavementtune]

just those that return after a ban using a proxy server, and then claim to have "forgotten their username from a long time ago."

I could look up your recent usernames, if you'd like a reminder. see ya, shitface

[FoolofaTook]

nah just you

everyone i disagree with is "imbecile swine"

[SpiritDesire]

what's with all the hostility? I only argued against censorship. I didn't even insult anyone.

[SpiritDesire]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

just those that return after a ban using a proxy server, and then claim to have "forgotten their username from a long time ago."

I could look up your recent usernames, if you'd like a reminder. see ya, shitface

???

do let me know, thanks

[FoolofaTook]

keep arguing against censorship... until it gets you banned.


LOL

[pavementtune]

calling private companies dropping content that is rightfully on the extremist watchlist CENSORSHIP, insults every person with a functioning brain.

thanks for playing, hop along now

[SpiritDesire]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

keep arguing against censorship... until it gets you banned.


LOL

Hahahahahah

seriously though, what did I do wrong exactly? I'm curious

[SpiritDesire]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

calling private companies dropping content that is rightfully on the extremist watchlist CENSORSHIP, insults every person with a functioning brain.

thanks for playing, hop along now

that's not a logical answer

how is IW extremist? they're literal conspiracy theorists and dumb as shit

and yes, it is censorship when several companies do it for no particular reason

[FoolofaTook]

how would i know? do my tookling hobbits look like mods to you?

i would pm ram27 for details if i was you, spiritdesire

[SpiritDesire]

damn do you all get offended this quickly? chill the fuck out, lmao. it's just a civil discussion. it was, at least.

[FoolofaTook]

and it will be again, after you are banned

[pavementtune]

how, just how, oh geez I wonder, if only I could use google to find out what criteria content has to meet to get added to the extremist watchlist, I might find something out, but hey, I'm busy trolling the same tiny board for the 10th time and just wait if someone bites. you could at least put more effort in your first grader idiocy.

kindly shut the fuck up, thanks.

[Disco King]

If a movie theatre dictates that black attendees must sit in the back, just go to another movie theatre, lol

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

I agree with this for the most part but how is any of his (retarded) rhetoric racist? I've never actually seen the dude endorse racism or anti-semitism, either.

he is insanely Islamophobic. close enough

[redbreegull]

oh wow this rando shitstain little right wing troll guy has been going at it for pages, lmao

glad to see you guys have this covered. let's make netphoria great again

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

At least let people have a platform, no matter how ridiculous their ideas. If they're really that stupid, no one will listen. Simple.

this is actually maybe the stupidest thing you have said. If you have ever learned literally anything about history, you should know that it's often the worst, most destructive, horrible ideas that people get behind. I mean HOWABOUT THAT THIRD REICH HUH? LMAO just let them have their platform man, no one will listen to their dumb ideas anyway.

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

I've repeatedly stated that there's more to this than "right" or "left",

oh boy someone opened the textbook for comparative political systems a few weeks early! you are gonna have the jump on all those other sophomore polisci majors.

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

what's with all the hostility? I only argued against censorship. I didn't even insult anyone.

Howabout you shut the fuck. No one here wants to listen to your appeals for tolerance of hatred and cruelty. There's this thing called the tolerance paradox, where a society which is too tolerant of forces which want to undo that society's values gets destroyed because of its undiscriminating tolerance. See? It's a paradox. Get it? If we don't shut down destructive voices in our society, we lose our society. Just like fuzzyroes, you are taking the political value of Freedom of Speech, which refers to the limits on GOVERNMENT censorship, and applying it to all areas of life like that's a thing, but it's not. It's not a thing.

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

probably safe to say that people who don't think AJ and his followers are alt-right and use the term 'sjw' unironically are alt-right

Nah, centrists also tend to be completely blind to discrimination because they're usually never affected by it.

[Shallowed]

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

for real though, it's true. you're PROBABLY not racist if you're anti-racism. InfoWars has had people of different races on the show, for example. is there any evidence to suggest that him or his followers are racist?

Case in point. This kind of belief is either extremely naive or disingenuous.

Don't piss on your GameCube and tell me it's raining.

[Shallowed]

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

For the record, Milo isn't an extremist. the far right hates the guy.

The guy literally sought guidance from neo-Nazis for content and article ideas for Breitbart. The right only turned on him after he advocated for hebephilia. Prior to that, he was their darling, and they were willing to tolerate him as a token gay for the same reasons that they get Larry Elder to talk about how bad "black culture" is on Fox News.

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by SpiritDesire

I'm more in favour of a free market. If someone won't bake a cake for your gay wedding, go to another baker. They're the ones losing money anyway.

if you're black and a restaurant won't serve you JUST GO TO ANOTHER RESTAURANT

fuckin idiot

[Disco King]

Pop quiz

Which of the following did more to curb discrimination against African-Americans?

A. Black people stopped going to restaurants that treated them poorly, and all the racist businesses went out of business because they couldn't compete in the free market without black people's money.

B. A legal statute prohibited service discrimination on the basis of race.

[Disco King]

C'mon, Spirit Desire, you've got a 50/50 chance.

[fuzzyroes]

This is absurd, but Alex knew it was coming, for all of these social media platforms to collude with one another should show the corruption at bay.

It's only gonna strengthen the base and make them more passionate... After all, Infowars is one of the top viewed news websites in the world.