Teargarden by Kaleidyscope Revisited

[FoolofaTook]

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[FoolofaTook]

damn page break!

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3

I like Lightning Strikes a lot. Very well written song

finally someone else

[NovaFritz]

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3

I like Lightning Strikes a lot. Very well written song

I am glad you made this happen.

[NovaFritz]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

best version of a stitch in time, the drums add a lot to the song:

Of all the songs in the world to learn and post yourself playing.... why?

[MonumentsRocks]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Tom tom is pure fkn class. Should have been on Oceania and should have been a single.

If Tom Tom was any more compressed a diamond would pop out of your speaker.

[MonumentsRocks]

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3

I like Lightning Strikes a lot. Very well written song

I've tried liking this song, but it just sounds like a three minute drum fill drowned out with a cacophony of guitars and synths.

[NovaFritz]

I am realizing that I may have never listened to a Stitch in Time before. Weird. I wonder how much other SP2 I don't know but criticize anyways.

[johncg]

Originally Posted by NovaFritz

Of all the songs in the world to learn and post yourself playing.... why?

Seriously. Do Green Day. Good Charlotte. Foo Fighters.

Anything but this.

[houseofglass11]

Originally Posted by MonumentsRocks

If Tom Tom was any more compressed a diamond would pop out of your speaker.

one diamond? one heart?

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by MonumentsRocks

I've tried liking this song, but it just sounds like a three minute drum fill drowned out with a cacophony of guitars and synths.

Lightning Strikes... Yet another song from Corgan where the lyrical hook is "we're gonna make it happen!" I feel like he's used that line in at least 3 or 4 different songs since Jimmy left in 2008

[eviltimeban]

At this stage I'm really curious as to what "it" is.

It's a bigger mystery than "I would do anything for love, but I won't do that".

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

At this stage I'm really curious as to what "it" is.

It's a bigger mystery than "I would do anything for love, but I won't do that".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27d_..._of_%22that%22

Meat Loaf says that the question, "What is 'that'?" is one of the most popular questions he is asked.[5]

Each verse mentions two things that the man would do for love, followed by one thing that he will not do. The title phrase repetition reasserts that he "won't do that." Each mention of "that" is a reference to the particular promise that he made earlier in the same verse.[6] The four things he says he will never do are:

"forget the way you feel right now"
"forgive myself if we don't go all the way tonight"
"do it better than I do it with you"
"stop dreaming of you every night of my life"
At the song's conclusion, the woman predicts two things that he will do: "You'll see that it's time to move on", and "You'll be screwing around." To both of these, the male emphatically responds, "I won't do that!"

In his 1998 VH1 Storytellers special, Meat Loaf even explained it on stage using a blackboard and a pointing stick.[6] In a 1993 promotional interview, Steinman states that the definition of "that" is fully revealed in the song in each of the several verses in which it is mentioned. This sense would have been more clear if the lyric had been "and I won't do that" instead of "but I won't do that." It is the use of "but" instead of "and" that leads to the ambiguity.

It sort of is a little puzzle and I guess it goes by - but they're all great things. 'I won't stop doing beautiful things and I won't do bad things.' It's very noble. I'm very proud of that song because it's very much like out of the world of Excalibur. To me, it's like Sir Lancelot or something - very noble and chivalrous. That's my favorite song on the record - it's very ambitious.[7][8]

Meat Loaf believed that the lyrics were unambiguous, but Steinman predicted that they would cause confusion.[9] An early episode of the VH1 program Pop-up Video made this claim at the end of the song's video: "Exactly what Meat Loaf won't do for love remains a mystery to this day."[10] A reviewer writing for AllMusic commented that "The lyrics build suspense by portraying a romance-consumed lover who pledges to do anything in the name of love except 'that,' a mysterious thing that he will not specify."[11] Frank O'day says the lyrics provide "an enlightening example of how listeners project their own thoughts, values, and concerns onto the meaning of the song with misconstrued lyrics."[4]

The phrase "I would do anything for love but I won't do that" had previously appeared as a spoken interlude in the song "Getting So Excited," released in 1985 by Bonnie Tyler in her album Faster Than the Speed of Night. In this song, the phrase's meaning is more clear: a woman is refusing an offensive proposal. Steinman produced this record and wrote many of the songs but this song is credited to Alan Gruner.

[fluxequalsrad]

Meatloaf is the most successful troll job in the history of music.

[FoolofaTook]

pretty sure he was singing about anal

[johncg]

Giving or receiving?

[NovaFritz]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Lightning Strikes... Yet another song from Corgan where the lyrical hook is "we're gonna make it happen!" I feel like he's used that line in at least 3 or 4 different songs since Jimmy left in 2008

no shit Fuzzy, i highlighted this in the first page of this thread

[houseofglass11]

teargarden by colostomy

[johncg]

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

teargarden by colostomy

I legit lol’ed at this

[FoolofaTook]

giving or receiving (colostomy)?

[Mals Marola]

the real question mark on this whole thing was why Corgan shelled out obelisks to the fans with vol 1 instead of KALEIDYSCOPES

you know, to better access our teargardens

[FoolofaTook]

Whencewhither questioneth thou thy Bald Lord?

[Mals Marola]

didn't you hear? i've been elevated in my status at the union church & am allowed one questioning per fiscal quarter

[FoolofaTook]

Forgive me. I bow to your authority, O Arch-Reverend of the Minions of B0llzebub.

[Mals Marola]

it is fine so long as you fulfill the following penance: listen to Teargarden in full 10 times within a 24-hour period

once that is completed the Bald Council will forgive all

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad

Meatloaf is the most successful troll job in the history of music.

You know what's better than Teargarden by Kaleidyscope?

Meatloaf.

Although the drop-off on his last record is flat-out hilarious - sings like he's wasted on a bouncy castle... but he's like 90, so it's ok.

[Zer0 Hour]

Meatloaf sucks. He sang (off-key) for Mitt Romney.

Also, meatloaf sucks. As in the food. It's gross. Whoever thought making pound cake out of ground beef was a good idea?

[houseofglass11]

Meatloaf ain't nuthin 2 fuck with

[johncg]

God I love meatloaf.

The food.

[FoolofaTook]

yeah it's hearty fare, no doubt