He used to be a little boy

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by johncg

Definitely maybe

[johncg]

I love Rocket but there are so many all-time classic SP singles that are better...

[enthusaroo]

I haven't heard of this song Disarm before.

Is it from Shiny and Bright (No Future. No God?)

[butthurt]

The years Byrne...

[johncg]

Like Tarantula

[FoolofaTook]

sorry. rocket is pure psychedelic glory. that lead running through the whole thing. so effortless and so propulsive.

UGH

[johncg]

Also I hope my Monte reference was clear and you guys don’t just think I can’t spell engulf

[johncg]

I just can’t imagine a top five list with no BWBW, TT, Today, or Disarm. It just feels wrong to me. Like you ripped one of the gospels out of the Bible.

[FoolofaTook]

I'd take Perfect over Today and BWBW

for real

[johncg]

Bottom five singles:

Solara
G.L.O.W
Panopticon
One and All
The Celestials

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

why the fuck would i be trolling about rocket? rocket is one of the four untouchables on sd. soma mayo hummer and rocket. everything pales in comparison on that album.

Hmmm

Never thought of it like that

Add geek USA and i endorse your untouchable list

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by johncg

I just can’t imagine a top five list with no BWBW, TT, Today, or Disarm. It just feels wrong to me. Like you ripped one of the gospels out of the Bible.

Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?

[johncg]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?

Rocket > BWBW

I’m just saying a top five list without ONE of those tunes blows my mind.

[enthusaroo]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?

BWBW is just a watered down Solera

[Fonzie]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

rocket
33
siyl
1979
zero


thats top five

Cherub Rock
Tristessa (sub pop)
I Am One (12”)
Untitled
Stand Inside Your Love


Done.

[bright_doom]

Tonight Tonight
Perfect
Disarm
Today
33

Done and dusted.

[FoolofaTook]

ah tristessa is a good one.

and yeah it was hard not to in-clude tonite. that was the song that got me into the pumpkins.

perhaps i was a bit harsh on disarm. thinking back last night, i remembered listening to it for the first time. like someone said in this thread, i had never heard anything like it. quite a moving experience.

[FoolofaTook]

cherub rock is another one that's hard not to includ-e

[vixnix]

I started appreciating disarm when my general life trauma became unresolved childhood trauma

[eviltimeban]

How about Lily vs Slunk?

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by johncg

Disarm is not only one of Billy’s best songs, it’s one of the definitive alternative rock songs of the 90’s. It’s one of those songs that will be listed in a “1990’s late period alternative rock” chapter in a textbook about 20th century western popular music one day. The pain Billy expresses is so raw and real which makes it that much more of an achievement. As much I hate on Billy here, I have to say honestly he shows incredible resilience and courage in turning his pain into art in “Disarm.”

Amen brother. There's been this "current rock" feed that plays at my work since they switched it over from the Christmas music. It's all real new charting stuff with a super small selection of a few older classics and Disarm is one of the songs that comes on... SP is actually well represented. I hear Disarm every day and I've also heard Tonight Tonight and Landslide... The only other old songs I hear are a few by the Chili Peppers and Beck and Low from Cracker lol... Oh they also play Praise You by Fatboy Slim haha. That's literally it for 90's groups.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

why the fuck would i be trolling about rocket? rocket is one of the four untouchables on sd. soma mayo hummer and rocket. everything pales in comparison on that album.

How dare you leave out Geek USA.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

I've been listening to a lot of Oasis lately. Since I was digging Be Here Now, I dusted my Definitely Maybe CD off yesterday and was listening to that and damn, that's a damn fine album. It was one I was never really checked out in full and I picked it up in a thrift store haul years back and probably only listened to it twice, but it really clicks for me now. Liam really weaves his voice in awesomely with Noels guitar work. Sounds dope.

[reprise85]

Best 5 SP singles (as far as songcraft).

Tonight, Tonight
Disarm
Rocket
33
1979

tempted to put the everlasting gaze, but the excellent songwriting is overshadowed too much by the bad production choices and vocals. SIYL and rhinoceros are also honorable mentions.

[reprise85]

as far as untouchable SD songs:

hummer
rocket
soma
mayo
disarm
geek usa

like, those are unfuckwithable. tempted to put silverfuck and luna on there as well.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Dude but bwbw?

Certainly you concede rockets a better composition i mean is it even close?

yer nuts. Bullet's definitely their best "rock" single.

[reprise85]

rocket has layers on layers on layers, it's phenomenal

BWBW is a great rock single but it doesn't stand the test of time

[fuzzyroes]

Fuzzy's top 5 Smashing Pumpkins Singles:
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
Disarm
Today
Zero
1979

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by reprise85

BWBW is a great rock single but it doesn't stand the test of time

It sure does. It was literally on the radio as I was driving home this morning and I cranked that shit up. Always hits the spot. The "what have you GOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT" part is literally a top 5 Corgan studio moment.

[Reyngel]

If you’re going to list “untouchables” for SD, keep it at top-3. Anything more, and you’re just typing out the track list because you can’t make a decision.

IMO, the 3 SD untouchables are:

Disarm
Soma
Geek USA

Mayonaise is a runner-up.