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Old 05-02-2018, 01:31 AM   #1531
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Cause saying Billy leaked her picture is not only your opinion, it's a fact you know for sure. Right.
I didn't say that Billy gave it to his friend Mancow Muller. Linda Strawberry mentioned in a SP-Facebook group that they had the photo for a while from the one who hit D'arcy.
Why didn't they ask her about the circumstances for the photo?
Why didn't Corgan criticize Muller the way he handled the thing? If he was just by coincidence two days later on his show.

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:12 AM   #1532
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from the one who hit D'arcy.
BILLY WAS THE "FRIEND" THAT HIT HER

this shit is SOOO obvious. how are you just glazing past the obvious facts. BILLY IS ABUSIVE.

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:08 AM   #1533
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BILLY WAS THE "FRIEND" THAT HIT HER

this shit is SOOO obvious. how are you just glazing past the obvious facts. BILLY IS ABUSIVE.
You must know it, JAMES...

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:54 AM   #1534
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Yeah, IN MY OPINION* the account was obviously from someone inside the Pumpkins Camp if not Billy himself. I can't believe the media didn't pick up on this story and expose Billy for intimidating and publicly humiliating a female musician.

The guy is a scumbag.

*don't sue me Corgan
don't worry, T&T took the spotlight right off you in terms of defamation

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:57 AM   #1535
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Mancow, as he's known to fans (don't ask me to explain that!) Is one of my best friends, and a better friend you couldn't have. He, probably more that anyone behind the scenes, has encouraged me to embrace being a father, a partner, as well as charitable and forgiving to all; which may sound trite in this context but believe me we all need someone who inspires us to be better and do better than we would on our own. And Erich is that kind of a person. So from the maelstrom that is a 'public' life (and as meaningless as that phrase might be in the social media age) just know that a great and kind man lost his spot yesterday, which affects employees, families, and of course fans; of which he has many. I appreciate you Erich!


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Old 05-02-2018, 01:57 PM   #1536
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don't worry, T&T took the spotlight right off you in terms of defamation

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:18 PM   #1537
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I didn't say that Billy gave it to his friend Mancow Muller. Linda Strawberry mentioned in a SP-Facebook group that they had the photo for a while from the one who hit D'arcy.
Why didn't they ask her about the circumstances for the photo?
Why didn't Corgan criticize Muller the way he handled the thing? If he was just by coincidence two days later on his show.
You probably monitors his phone as well so you know billy never rang mancow to ask him to remove the picture from his Facebook (which he did 1 or 2 days later). Now, what were you saying about opinions again?

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:01 PM   #1538
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You probably monitors his phone as well so you know billy never rang mancow to ask him to remove the picture from his Facebook (which he did 1 or 2 days later). Now, what were you saying about opinions again?
For someone telling to be neutral you get "funny" at the wrong time. Otherwise: where is the source?

I (like some others) asked Facebook and Twitter to remove the picture for the humiliating purpose.
It took four or five days until it disappeared, around the same time, from both accounts.

Days after Corgan's appearance, with time enough to spread around.

 
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Old 05-02-2018, 08:29 PM   #1539
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don't worry, T&T took the spotlight right off you in terms of defamation
My facts are correct. you're the one trying to defame me with your lies. Prove my facts wrong. I bet you can't. cause I'm right.



and I don't give a shit about Billys' stupid american lawyers.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 12:23 AM   #1540
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For someone telling to be neutral you get "funny" at the wrong time. Otherwise: where is the source?

I (like some others) asked Facebook and Twitter to remove the picture for the humiliating purpose.
It took four or five days until it disappeared, around the same time, from both accounts.

Days after Corgan's appearance, with time enough to spread around.
I also reported it to Facebook and got a reply saying the person removed it before they were able to analyse it.

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Old 05-03-2018, 12:57 AM   #1541
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I didn't get a message like that. But Facebook thanked me for informing them about the violation.
Telling the photos only stayed one or two days was already wrong...

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:57 AM   #1542
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I know I reported Mancow's post on Twitter, but I'm not sure who responsible for deleting it in the end.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 12:29 PM   #1543
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I've got to wonder how sound her mental health really is/has been.. at least in regards to getting out of her home and playing/touring/doing the whole rock thing again. just the fact that she's spent the past couple of months speaking about all of the bad details related to being in that band can't be good for her, and i imagine her sudden recent silence is an indication she's had to step back from it for the sake of her own sanity. speculation, of course.

but Billy should have just left it at being friends again and not put this idea of doing a big tour with her so soon in the game. i truly believe his offer to her was a way to ease her back into the band, but it just couldn't happen that way. in the end he played with fire and got what he'd deserved for a long time. but it's just too bad.. i was happy to hear that they were patching things up, were friends again, etc etc, and sad that they're back to where they have been the past 20 years.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 01:18 PM   #1544
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There was no real "renewed" friendship like Billy Corgan had told. He didn't invite her to get to know his family and didn't follow D'arcy's offer to visit her on her farm.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 01:18 PM   #1545
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I know I reported Mancow's post on Twitter, but I'm not sure who responsible for deleting it in the end.
Facebook and Twitter both didn't tell.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:44 PM   #1546
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Was Corgan really ever friends with anyone in the band? It always seemed like more of a business thing - Jimmy's a great drummer, James and D'arcy have a fashion sense, etc etc. They got together to get big, not because they really liked each other

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 07:02 PM   #1547
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does billy have ANY friends?

desperate lackey yesmen like startits aren't friends.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 07:22 PM   #1548
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Erich Mancow Muller and Alex Jones - only the right human garbage is good enough for Bully. Someone give him Kellyanne Kanye's number.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 07:26 PM   #1549
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I really only had one man in the music business in my entire history in the music business that was that man for me. It was Phil Quartararo, who I’m still friends with even though he’s only tangentially still in the business.
what's the point, right?

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:31 PM   #1550
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what's the point, right?
album sales. or shirt sales. what ever profitable payday he can line up.

 
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:37 PM   #1551
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i mean Phil is only tangentially still in the business, so why would old Bill keep him as a friend?

 
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Old 05-05-2018, 01:09 PM   #1552
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D'arcy once told on Facebook to be a big fan of Elvis and Johnny Cash.

Well, if she already has problems with Corgan she can be glad not to have met them personally:


 
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:18 AM   #1553
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Corgan praised D’arcy’s contributions during his songwriting process in a new interview with Lars Ulrich on It’s Electric! Alternative Nation transcribed Corgan’s comments.

“What I would always tell people, and it’s hard to explain these things in literal terms, was she had a very high discernment for the material. So if she didn’t kind of sign off on it, it probably wasn’t as good. So I would spend a lot of time just looking at her, and looking for raised eyebrows. I learned to kind of gage her reaction. She’s the type of person where you could go, ‘Oh, I like whatever is the popular thing.’

She’d be totally dismissive, very punk rock. To her, if something didn’t have an internal integrity, it was worthless, like a punk rock outlier or something. When the band was at its most functional with the four of us, that’s what I looked to her for.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:52 AM   #1554
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They should have talked again per video conference...

 
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:06 AM   #1555
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So I would spend a lot of time just looking at her, and looking for raised eyebrows.

Sometimes Billy didn't spend enough time looking at her:



 
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:20 AM   #1556
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