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03-10-2019, 10:42 PM | #2581 |
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What I don't get is Billy is worth something like $50 million, and his job description doesn't require him to read what people say about him on the internet. If I had that amount of money and wasn't required to read shit about me online, you can bet your ass I wouldn't. I've had this exact same conversation privately with some other people I cover on the site, for some reason they just can't help it.
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03-10-2019, 10:47 PM | #2582 | |
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I think what a lot of these forums/fan sites hate about me is I do get news from them, but that is my job, and fansites/forums are some of the best sources on the internet for news. Also the stories I post aren't all worshipping and can be about unpleasant stuff. It's sex, drugs, and rock and roll. If they want boring shit they should read news about the Jonas Brothers reunion or something. |
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03-10-2019, 10:55 PM | #2583 | |
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I think maybe Corgan just has the excuse up his sleeve for convenient use. |
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03-10-2019, 11:00 PM | #2584 | |
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I think the fact that you're so involved online is one of the advantages you have with Alt Nation. A lot of these sites just post stories from the AP line or whatever and then you see hundreds of sites across the web running the same story daily and that's not all that interesting. It is funny how often I see sites running stories directly from a scoop you've found though. That's gotta be a pain in the ass sometimes, eh? |
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03-10-2019, 11:28 PM | #2585 |
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Pot calling kettle black when he regularly bullies and namecalls people on Instagram for asking excited and supportive questions he simply doesn’t like.
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03-10-2019, 11:28 PM | #2586 | |
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does anyone have this?? i want to see it next to bill's words of wisdom about bullying devi ever, was that the username? Last edited by wHATcOLOR : 03-10-2019 at 11:33 PM. |
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03-10-2019, 11:37 PM | #2587 |
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i thought that was her actual name
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03-10-2019, 11:44 PM | #2588 |
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i don't know man, i just wanna see the text right next to bill's little sermon
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03-11-2019, 12:02 AM | #2589 | |
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Also, can we please meditate for a moment or 2 on his attempt to wield the recent suicides as a reason we all need to be more like sad machines. That’s straight disrespectful and gross if u ask me Like Chris Cornell died so big willie could bully me on instagram to go gentler on bill when i post to netphoria THANKS CHRIS MISS U |
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03-11-2019, 01:22 AM | #2590 | |
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Also these sites just running the 'AP/press release line' are slipping, I recently passed up Loudwire traffic wise in the United States (the only place that matters financially). Alternative Nation just hit 400,000 hits today for the first time. When it comes to the interview that we've discussed to ad nauseum, like I said, don't shoot the messenger. D'arcy told me the night of the interview that Rolling Stone had reached out to her, so if it hadn't been me, it would have been them, but probably not as in-depth since they wouldn't be as invested in this as I am. Billy should have a bigger problem with that New York Times writer who tried to make him look like a dick. |
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03-11-2019, 01:22 AM | #2591 | |||
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dear jay, forwarded are the requested memos. pls be sure not to miss the 4 o'clock. -jay Quote:
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03-11-2019, 01:30 AM | #2592 | |||
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thank you kind sir. i'll be there. Quote:
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it really is quite amazing. it calls to mind melania trump deciding to make preventing cyberbullying her key issue of focus and yet her husband is one of the biggest bullies out there on twitter. but this is even richer because it's only one single person doing both of the opposite things here |
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03-11-2019, 02:02 AM | #2593 | |
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https://www.alternativenation.net/sm...-cobain-death/ We know goddamn well Melissa is NOT a "Smashing Pumpkins icon" (or at least the one anyone in their right mind would think of when reading the headline) and "bold truth" is debatable. |
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03-11-2019, 02:20 AM | #2594 | |
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Where else on the entire internet are there multiple threads discussing tracks from "Shiny" in detail? And the threads here are not entirely negative; probably 30-40% of the people still posting defend the new stuff. $50 million buys a lot, but if you're an artist and you want attention, it can't buy fans who still care enough to react and respond. Some of us have been thinking critically about this band for 20+ years. If you care at all about what you're creating as a musician, it would be incredibly hard to shut out such a significant portion of the people who still care. |
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03-11-2019, 02:32 AM | #2595 |
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looks like i picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue
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03-11-2019, 04:17 AM | #2596 |
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Is this the same guy who wrote all that hateful crap to the pedal maker, now saying that bullying should not be tolerated ever
Anything else you wanna throw at us from that glass house there |
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03-11-2019, 04:56 AM | #2597 |
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The pedal maker? The one who said she wanted to punch Mike Byrne in the face?
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03-11-2019, 06:31 AM | #2598 |
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Lol. Bolzi talking about bullying?
Isnt he the master of bullying? Didnt he shit on james, darcy, jimmy, deerhunter, on fans etc...? Funny. |
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03-11-2019, 07:01 AM | #2599 | |
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The best album he ever recorded is just sat there. Deliberately with-holding material. Blaming unpopular decisions on hatephoria rather than the real reason: lack of interest or lack of faith in his own work. He must realise there is a correlation between pleasing the fans here, and pleasing critics and a mainstream audience. Netphorians are generally smart and care about SP. He’s done some sort of transference where we’re the abusers crushing his creativity. Rather than face up to his own poor judgement. Although occasionally in interviews he appears to acknowledge this and appears rational. Then the next interview he’ll be totally losing it and talking about conspiracies and shapeshifters. |
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03-11-2019, 08:25 AM | #2600 |
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Also, Netphoria was completely born from the venom, vitriol, cynicism and criticism that Billy expressed on stage and in interviews 24/7 throughout the mid to late 90s.
He might hate the monster he inspired, but he has only but himself to blame. He surely can't use the excuse "But I've grown up since the 90s," either, because he still bullies the fuck out of people on Instagram, and pretty much every other outlet. |
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03-11-2019, 08:41 AM | #2601 |
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he still bullies the fuck out of people on Instagram, and pretty much every other outlet.[/quote]
True that. Anyone interested in 2 sp tickets for the concert in prague? I dont wanna go anymore |
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03-11-2019, 08:52 AM | #2602 |
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It's been more than that, and I don't see how he "brings it upon himself" that there were threads dedicated to when his kid will die, and posts when and how a dang toddler should die (on here as well), or things like - repeatedly - "go kill yourself." that shit wasn't funny when we were all 12, and isn't funny today, either.
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03-11-2019, 08:54 AM | #2603 |
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That’s a shame, I loved that about his solo gigs.
But which songs and places online is he referring to? I remember Orange Burnt Black and Bless Me/Red Dirt being premiered live, and that was well received (including on here), people still ask him years later for a release of these songs or any other recording, which he keeps declining. So I’m not following what he's talking about. |
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03-11-2019, 08:57 AM | #2604 | |
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Probably should start banning people for that kind of posting. |
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03-11-2019, 09:02 AM | #2605 |
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These threads (and posts, for the most part) have been deleted, and yes I agree, the culprits stopped by now, which is good enough, I think.
The "kill yourself" shit would require us to read all of the content, which nobody does. Personally I count on others to simply hit the report button on posts like that so we find it. It's one thing to rant on here, including insults and what have you, or criticism of the music or the artist. but anything that includes wishing death on anyone (or cancer really, because come the fuck on, not funny, either) is crossing several lines people should simply have, online or offline, we are NOT 12 after all. I'm personally not ok with "jokingly saying someone should kill themselves", but I don't think there has ever been an agreement on here. I simply don't see how deleting "I hope you die/you should kill yourself" etc. is censorship, because if that is an opinion you want to express, you have a fucking problem to begin with. That's coming from someone who lost several people to suicide, and I still see both in private and in my work environment what outright hate and death wishes expressed online can do to the targets, and I simply fail to see how any of it falls under "entertaining myself online." you might get a laugh out of it for solid 2 seconds, but this shit actually gets to people. Last edited by pavementtune : 03-11-2019 at 09:09 AM. |
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03-11-2019, 09:12 AM | #2606 |
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I think if anyone pays attention they can see for the most part that the community is largely self-regulating. It just seems easier to 'trash talk' and say that everything here is negative, when in reality it's one of the few places with fairly objective views of the music at times.
I'd much rather that than the endless lickspittle behaviour of Sad Machines etc. I can't believe that a musician would want endless fawning either, but I do understand the push back against the worst elements here, which can be fairly tiresome even for boarders. It might be a nice gesture to flag up something along the lines of not tolerating certain types of extreme behaviour - but whether it makes any difference remains to be seen. |
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03-11-2019, 09:17 AM | #2607 | |
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(actually, if anyone who is English native and can spell, can come up with like 3 lines what we do not want to see on here, I could at least sticky it. I simply shouldn't write it because Montese-English.) Self-regulation should work in theory, and I think it does? At least now that this community here is so small. Anyway. It would be nice if he could make a point now and then without mixing up several realities, and without sounding like a fucking hypocrite since he entertains himself by choosing to publish Instagram replies with "that is why you will never get laid" and facilitating a social media game that ended in "boycott that bitch" army going after D'arcy, including his own staff, including himself, including turning a domestic abuse picture into a "guess this battered rock star game." In short, Corgan can still go fuck himself, he never even apologized for that battered rock star game of his dear friend Mancow he still supports but now preaches about online bullying, are you fucking kidding me. |
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03-11-2019, 09:23 AM | #2608 | |
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Another erroneous one I saw awhile back was "Seinfeld star commits suicide". I'm all shocked and click and it turns out it's a guy who played George's boss for a few episodes in one of the later seasons. Last edited by fuzzyroes : 03-11-2019 at 09:30 AM. |
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03-11-2019, 09:27 AM | #2609 | |
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2. No attacking other ppl's self-of-steam. 3. Pls respeckt Foolf's father and BORIS. |
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03-11-2019, 09:28 AM | #2610 |
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srsly tho i do not remember ppl talking about airplane mode or her kids dying. that's really fucked up.
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