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11-05-2009, 01:45 AM | #1111 |
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you called it all the way because you are a Yankees fan
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11-05-2009, 02:44 AM | #1112 |
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Yes, I called the Phillies winning the NLCS and losing in 6 games because I am a Yankees fan, good call.
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11-05-2009, 04:33 AM | #1113 |
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well this makes up for you getting every prediction wrong a couple years back. actually probably not, those predictions will probably stand out over anything else you predict.
the yanks looked really good all POs, this sort of felt inevitable. bummer pedro had to lose like that to end this series. if i was a phillies fan id be pissed at hamels and howard over anyone else |
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11-05-2009, 01:20 PM | #1114 |
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11-05-2009, 01:32 PM | #1115 |
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Bad examples - the Cubs, Mets and Tigers spent more than both teams and didn't make the playoffs. Hell the Astros were close to Boston and ahead in salary of the Dodgers and Jesus Christ look at that team!
1. New York Yankees $201,449,289 $7,748,050 2. New York Mets $135,773,988 $4,849,071 3. Chicago Cubs $135,050,000 $5,402,000 4. Boston Red Sox $122,696,000 $4,089,867 5. Detroit Tigers $115,085,145 $4,110,184 6. Los Angeles Angels $113,709,000 $4,061,036 7. Philadelphia Phillies $113,004,048 $4,185,335 8. Houston Astros $102,996,415 $3,814,682 9. Los Angeles Dodgers $100,458,101 $4,018,324 10. Seattle Mariners $98,904,167 $3,532,292 11. Atlanta Braves $96,726,167 $3,335,385 12. Chicago White Sox $96,068,500 $3,694,942 13. St. Louis Cardinals $88,528,411 $3,278,830 14. San Francisco Giants $82,161,450 $3,043,017 15. Cleveland Indians $81,625,567 $3,023,169 16. Toronto Blue Jays $80,993,657 $2,892,631 17. Milwaukee Brewers $79,857,502 $3,194,300 18. Colorado Rockies $75,201,000 $2,785,222 19. Arizona Diamondbacks $73,571,667 $2,724,877 20. Cincinnati Reds $70,968,500 $2,957,021 21. Kansas City Royals $70,908,333 $2,727,244 22. Texas Rangers $68,646,023 $2,367,104 23. Baltimore Orioles $67,101,667 $2,580,833 24. Minnesota Twins $65,299,267 $2,251,699 25. Tampa Bay Rays $63,313,035 $2,183,208 26. Oakland Athletics $62,310,000 $2,225,357 27. Nationals $59,328,000 $2,045,793 28. Pirates $48,743,000 $1,874,731 29. San Diego Padres $42,796,700 $1,528,454 30. Florida Marlins $36,814,000 $1,314,786 |
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11-05-2009, 01:40 PM | #1116 |
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the gap between the yankees and everyone else is absolutely ridiculous
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11-05-2009, 01:57 PM | #1117 |
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that's what i actually ment
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11-05-2009, 04:11 PM | #1118 |
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the astros have a hundered million dollar payroll!? what the Fuck!?
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11-05-2009, 04:13 PM | #1119 |
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11-06-2009, 02:53 AM | #1120 | |
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11-06-2009, 05:39 AM | #1121 |
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I wonder how the yankees would do with a salary cap.
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11-06-2009, 12:35 PM | #1122 |
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atta boy, tim lincecum
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11-06-2009, 12:42 PM | #1123 |
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tim lince-who?
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11-06-2009, 02:09 PM | #1124 |
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Everyone bitches about a salary cap, but do they bitch about the luxury tax? When teams spend over the cap amount, they pay almost double from that point on due to the luxury tax. Then you have teams like Florida and San Diego that decide that rather than put that free money into salaries to pocket the cash.
IMO that's a much bigger issue than any need for a salary cap. |
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11-06-2009, 03:03 PM | #1125 |
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Twins traded Carlos Gomez to the Brewers for JJ Hardy.
I liked Gomez. :/ |
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11-06-2009, 05:56 PM | #1126 |
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you'll like Hardy just as much when he starts playing for something again. probably
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11-06-2009, 05:59 PM | #1127 |
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I don't have a problem with the trade- it's a good move for the team. I just liked Gomez and was hoping to see him develop some more.
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11-06-2009, 06:10 PM | #1128 |
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i've rarely seen him play but didn't realize he was only 23. that makes the trade more interesting i suppose
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11-06-2009, 08:46 PM | #1129 | |
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11-06-2009, 09:24 PM | #1130 |
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No there should be a minimum salary cap so the Pirates owner can't pocket other teams' money.
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11-08-2009, 05:45 PM | #1131 |
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What MLB needs to do is figure out how to create a better revenue sharing system before they even think of implementing a hard salary cap. Because currently, most owners are just pocketing the money they get from the Yankees' revenue tax instead of putting it back into the team.
Owners of teams like the Pirates ruin baseball far more than owners of teams like the Yankees. If you REALLY think that a hard salary cap will somehow "fix" the sport (I would argue what's there to fix anyway? Just look at the different number of teams making the postseason in the past decade and the different WS champs), you're simply pointing the blame in the wrong direction just because the yankees actually won it all this year. |
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11-09-2009, 12:39 AM | #1132 |
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It's amazing to me that the only time we hear this conversation is when the Yankees win the World Series.. and no stories about how the Rays and Rockies made it two years in a row.
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11-09-2009, 07:06 AM | #1133 |
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Shouldn't the topic be more about teams making the playoffs and not just going/winning the world series. The riches teams for the most part, consistently make the playoffs.
New York Yankees $201,449,189-------playoff New York Mets $149,373,987 Chicago Cubs $134,809,000 Boston Red Sox $121,745,999--------playoff Detroit Tigers $115,085,145-------missed by one game Los Angeles Angels $113,709,000-----playoff Philadelphia Pillies $113,004,046------playoff Houston Astros $102,996,414 Los Angeles Dodgers $100,414,592--------playoff Seattle Mariners $98,904,166 Atlanta Braves $96,726,166 Chicago White Sox $96,068,500 San Francisco Giants $82,616,450 Cleveland Indians $81,579,166 Toronto Blue Jays $80,538,300 Milwaukee Brewers $80,182,502 St. Louis Cardinals $77,605,109---------playoff Colorado Rockies $75,201,000--------playoff Cincinnati Reds $73,558,500 Arizona Diamondbacks $73,516,666 Kansas City Royals $70,519,333 Texas Rangers $68,178,798 Baltimore Orioles $67,101,666 Minnesota Twins $65,299,266----- playoff Tampa Bay Rays $63,313,034 Oakland Athletics $62,310,000 Washington Nationals $60,328,000 Pittsburgh Pirates $48,693,000 San Diego Padres $43,734,200 Florida Marlins $36,834,000 Of the 8 playoff spots, 5 went to teams in the top 10 in payroll. In 2008, 6 of the 8 spots went to teams in the top ten in payroll. N.Y. Yankees $222,519,480 Boston 147,075,645-------playoff New York Mets 144,693,962 Detroit 136,198,404 Chicago Cubs 130,508,691----playoff Los Angeles Angels 128,142,467-----playoff Los Angeles Dodgers 125,864,496----playoff Seattle 120,456,113 Chicago White Sox 113,641,026--------playoff Philadelphia 112,654,711--------playoff St. Louis 109,989,046 Houston 100,189,948 Toronto 98,343,520 Atlanta 92,494,314 Milwaukee 90,324,347------playoff Cincinnati 82,886,440 San Francisco 82,074,873 Arizona 80,998,526 Baltimore 78,888,250 Cleveland 78,663,582 Texas 78,640,138 Colorado 74,791,621 San Diego 71,212,182 Kansas City 69,297,547 Minnesota 65,096,667 Washington 59,699,668 Oakland 55,223,294 Tampa Bay 51,020,720-------playoff Pittsburgh 50,764,410 Florida 27,003,450 Now having a top payroll doesn't mean you're a shoe in for a playoff birth. You've got to have some fucking brains in order to judge talent (see Mets as an example). I can go back many more years and do this and the same teams are going to be popping up with an occasional Twins, giants, rockies, marlins team. This is not some anti-yankee shit either. I don't care if they win 18 more titles in my life span, big deal, they already have 27. They do however enjoy a huge advantage, as do many other clubs, and teams like the royals and so forth stand no chance to even smell the post season unless they are savvy and draft every future hof caliber ballplayer. I just believe if it's implemented correctly, it should be good for baseball. Somethings just not right when the price difference between the top and bottom team is $150 million dollars. Once again, this is not some anti yankee shit. Yankee fans need to chill. The luxury tax is basically useless. Everyone here knows it. Can anyone tell me how much the yankees pay and how much each team gets anyway? On a side note, anyone want to guess who lands Halladay? I think he's traded before the season starts. |
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11-09-2009, 12:52 PM | #1134 |
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The only thing I can see for sure happening at this point is the Brewers signing Brett Myers.
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11-09-2009, 03:08 PM | #1135 | |
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Also keep in mind that those are end-of-year figures - any team that is playing well will usually add payroll during a season and a team that is losing will attempt to dump contracts. If you start with 30 teams with identical payrolls, chances are by the end of the season those who make the moves to increase their payroll because they're looking to the post-season will make the playoffs. |
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11-16-2009, 07:34 PM | #1136 |
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11-16-2009, 07:36 PM | #1137 |
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i just made a touchdown |
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11-16-2009, 07:45 PM | #1138 |
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