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Old 02-07-2012, 08:28 PM   #241
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someone on facebook just said that ron paul would be best for the american working class

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where do people get these ideas

where

where?
Maybe because he's the only candidate not in the pocket of corporations?

 
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:38 PM   #242
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Maybe because he's the only candidate not in the pocket of corporations?
so you think his randian ideas are good for the working class

 
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:31 PM   #243
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so you think his randian ideas are good for the working class
The corporations won't have to pay any taxes and they'll go on a crazy nonstop hiring spree!!!!

 
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:29 AM   #244
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and there will be no more poverty except for people who truly deserve it

 
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:03 PM   #245
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Well here is the meat of it : These are the 26 Things Non-Paul Voters Are Saying...






(1) The American political establishment has done a super job keeping our country prosperous and our liberties protected, so I’m sure whatever candidate they push on me is probably a good one.

(2) Our country is basically bankrupt. Unfunded entitlement liabilities are in excess of twice world GDP. Therefore, it’s a good idea to vote for someone who offers no specific spending cuts of any kind.

(3) Vague promises to cut spending are good enough for me, even though they have always resulted in higher spending in the past.

(4) I prefer a candidate who plays to the crowd, instead of having the courage to tell his audience things they may not want to hear.

(5) I am deeply concerned about spending. Therefore, I would like to vote for someone who supported Medicare Part D, thereby adding $7 trillion to Medicare’s unfunded liabilities.

(6) I am opposed to bailouts. Therefore, I will vote for a candidate who supported TARP.

(7) The federal government is much too involved in education, where it has no constitutional role. Therefore, I will vote for a candidate who supported expanding the Department of Education and favored the No Child Left Behind Act.

(8) Even though practically everyone was caught by surprise in the 2008 financial crisis, which we are still reeling from, it’s a good idea not to vote for the one man in politics who predicted exactly what was bound to unfold, all the way back in 2001.

(9) I am not impressed by a candidate who inspires people, especially young ones, to read the great economists and political philosophers.

(10) I am concerned about taxes. Therefore, I will not vote for the one candidate who has never supported a tax increase.

(11) I believe it is conservative to support bringing the Enlightenment to Afghanistan via military intervention.

(12) Even though I lost half my retirement portfolio when the economy crashed from the sugar high the Federal Reserve’s artificially low interest rates put it on, I would like to vote for someone who is not really interested in the Federal Reserve.

(13) Even though 50 years of the embargo on Cuba did nothing to undermine Fidel Castro, and in fact handed him a perfect excuse for all the failures of socialism, I favor continuing this policy.

(14) If someone has a drug problem, prison rape is the best solution I can think of.

(15) Even though the Constitution had to be amended to allow for alcohol prohibition, and even though I claim to care about the Constitution, I don’t mind that there’s no constitutional authorization for the war on drugs, and I will punish at the polls anyone who favors the constitutional solution of returning the issue to the states.

(16) I believe only a “liberal” would think it was inhumane to keep essential items out of Iraq in the 1990s, even though one of the first people to protest this policy was Pat Buchanan.

(17) The Brookings Institution says Newt Gingrich’s 1994 Contract with America was an insignificant nibbling around the edges. I favor people who support insignificant nibbling around the edges, as long as they occasionally trick me with a nice speech.

(18) I am deeply concerned about radical Islam, so it was a good idea to depose the secular Saddam Hussein — who was so despised by Islamists that Osama bin Laden himself offered to fight against him in the 1991 Persian Gulf War — and replace him with a Shiite regime friendly with Iran, while also bringing about a new Iraqi constitution that makes Islam the state religion and forbids any law that contradicts its teachings.

(19) Indefinite detention for U.S. citizens seems like nothing to be worried about, especially since our political class is so trustworthy that it could never abuse such a power.

(20) Following up on (19), I believe Thomas Jefferson was just being paranoid when he said, “In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.”

(21) Even though the war in Iraq was based on crude propaganda I would have laughed at if the Soviet Union had peddled it, and even though the result has been hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, four million people displaced, trillions of dollars down the drain, tens of thousands of serious injuries among American servicemen and an epidemic of suicide throughout the military, not to mention the ruination of America’s reputation in the world, I see no reason to be skeptical when the same people who peddled that fiasco urge me to support yet another war as my country is going bankrupt.

(22) I do not trust the media. But when the media tells me I am not to support Ron Paul, who says things he is not allowed to say, I will comply.

(23) I know the media will smear or marginalize anyone who would really fix this country. But when the media smears and marginalizes Ron Paul, I will draw no conclusion from this.

(24) I want to be spoken to like this: “My fellow Americans, you are the awesomest of the awesome, and the only reason anyone in the world might be unhappy with your government is because of your sheer awesomeness.”

(25) I think it’s a good idea to vote for Mitt Romney, whose top three donors are Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, and Morgan Stanley, and a bad idea to vote for Ron Paul, whose top three donors are the U.S. Army, the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Air Force.

(26) I have not been exploited enough by the cozy relationship between large financial firms and the U.S. government, and I would like to see it continue.

 
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:37 PM   #246
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22 is a good one.

three of the remaining candidates have to rely on the media to make them popular with the people.

 
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:53 AM   #247
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dude that's not good for anyone but people who have money

 
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:53 PM   #248
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http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/1...consideration/

Maine will not go quietly!

 
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:29 PM   #249
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its true a real racist.

 
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Old 04-04-2012, 01:40 PM   #250
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maybe im stupid but i watched half of that and didnt hear any racism

 
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:40 PM   #251
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Question: How do we eliminate racism in America?

Ron Paul: get the government out of racism

Question: what is the answer to war?

Ron Paul: get the government out of war

Question: how do we improve the economy?

Ron Paul: get the government out of the economy

Question: how do we reduce abortions?

Ron Paul: get the government out of abortions

Question: how can America improve the environement

Ron Paul: get the government out of the environment

 
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:43 PM   #252
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everybody please ignore the fact that the Federal government is the only democratic means for providing legal, social and economic justice for groups of people, organizations and individuals who are trampled on by The States, businesses and other individuals.

Just forget about that and drink the infowarsalexjonesronpaulmicropenis cool aid!

 
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:21 PM   #253
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k thanks

 
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:43 PM   #254
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if voting was real and i was allowed to actually vote i would certainly vote for dr. paul!!!! he needs to ditch the gop and go 3rd party!!!! but if anything he can sleep at night knowing he pushed the whole 'to heck with dems and repubs' thing a lot further. i like him!!! you americans have no idea what else is out there!!!! lolx1!

 
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Old 04-06-2012, 07:19 PM   #255
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Question: How do we eliminate racism in America?

Ron Paul: get the government out of racism

Question: what is the answer to war?

Ron Paul: get the government out of war

Question: how do we improve the economy?

Ron Paul: get the government out of the economy

Question: how do we reduce abortions?

Ron Paul: get the government out of abortions

Question: how can America improve the environement

Ron Paul: get the government out of the environment
I have never seen this interview.... Link please?

More black people are arrested and put in prison for non-violent drug related crime. RP wants to stop this drugs on war on drugs. They have spent trillions of dollars arrested millions of Americans for nonviolent crime, and for what? You can get anything you want down the corner in a black white or mixed neighborhood.

Do you really think that msnbc, cnn, etc really give a shit about black people? Really?

The answer he gave about war was at about 6:40 also 14:20

http://youtu.be/SvZ5D_fU39w

He pretty much owns all the questions and all of the other candidates in the entire video.

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Old 04-06-2012, 09:41 PM   #256
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ron paul and libertarianism are jokes

 
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:48 PM   #257
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that's just how the media portrays it. while they're ignoring him he's laying the groundwork that will pick up the most delegates in tampa. you don't need to be in bed with the media and corporations to win votes. but maybe youre too narrow minded to realize that

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:39 AM   #258
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ron paul and libertarianism are jokes
So trots who exactly are you voting for/thinking about voting for?

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:15 AM   #259
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Zero income tax?

oh good god i hate people

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:16 AM   #260
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I have never seen this interview.... Link please?

More black people are arrested and put in prison for non-violent drug related crime. RP wants to stop this drugs on war on drugs. They have spent trillions of dollars arrested millions of Americans for nonviolent crime, and for what? You can get anything you want down the corner in a black white or mixed neighborhood.

Do you really think that msnbc, cnn, etc really give a shit about black people? Really?

The answer he gave about war was at about 6:40 also 14:20

http://youtu.be/SvZ5D_fU39w

He pretty much owns all the questions and all of the other candidates in the entire video.
His views on drug policy are basically the only things about him that make any sense. But most of the people in prison are there because of state law violations. Something Ron Paul can't do anything about anyway.

Also I think it's funny that you're using the "no one else cares about black people" line while supporting a guy who thinks the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 are unconstitutional. get the fuck out of here.

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:34 PM   #261
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LAY OFF BUSINESS. Our forefathers discriminated based on color or sexual orientation all the damn time, because that is their right.

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:12 PM   #262
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So trots who exactly are you voting for/thinking about voting for?
Bernie Sanders but he's a senator from a state that i don't live in

most of the rest are either corporate lackeys, religious freaks or ron paul.

so i don't vote.

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:19 PM   #263
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del there's a thread about it now

 
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His views on drug policy are basically the only things about him that make any sense. But most of the people in prison are there because of state law violations. Something Ron Paul can't do anything about anyway.

Also I think it's funny that you're using the "no one else cares about black people" line while supporting a guy who thinks the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 are unconstitutional. get the fuck out of here.
My point was that the media wants to paint him as a racist and that they (the mainstream media) don't care about black people. The reason he didn't vote for the CRA of 1964 was because he believes that the way it was worded government should not tell business how to run themselves not because he is a racist. He is the least racist of all the other candidates including obama.

 
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Bernie Sanders but he's a senator from a state that i don't live in

most of the rest are either corporate lackeys, religious freaks or ron paul.

so i don't vote.
I'll do research on Bernie Sanders and get back to you on that.

But at least vote for 3rd party man even if you think you are throwing your vote away.

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:44 AM   #266
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My point was that the media wants to paint him as a racist and that they (the mainstream media) don't care about black people. The reason he didn't vote for the CRA of 1964 was because he believes that the way it was worded government should not tell business how to run themselves not because he is a racist. He is the least racist of all the other candidates including obama.
You're an idiot. And who do you think his tax and entitlement policies would affect disproportionately negatively?

 
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But at least vote for 3rd party man even if you think you are throwing your vote away.
lol why

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:17 PM   #268
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Ron paul all the way. Even though he's not getting the nomination, he's planting the seeds. We're electing a lot of people who follow his philosophy so decades down the road who knows? Maybe we'll have a libertarian government.

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:19 PM   #269
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Ron paul all the way. Even though he's not getting the nomination, he's planting the seeds. We're electing a lot of people who follow his philosophy so decades down the road who knows? Maybe we'll have a libertarian government.
please be a bot

if not, go fuck yourself. there's nothing libertarian about wanting the government to monitor every fucking uterus in the country. nothing libertarian about not wanting gays to be able to adopt. nothing libertarian about letting state governments do whatever the fuck they want.

also libertarianism is a fucking joke. and if you're over 14 you should be embarrassed for even taking it seriously.

 
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i'm not sure there are any actual libertarians judging by how much they all veer from what i thought it was supposed to be about during my libertarian phase
maybe it isn't so bad its just that the people supporting it are all idiots (such as myself back then)

 
 


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