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Old 09-18-2018, 06:59 PM   #91
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I enjoyed the first 20mins or so of the interview, and thought the Lollapalooza comment was pretty cool.

I remember going to school after the show the next day and having to listen to the same boring argument that SP were studio magicians. That they couldn't replicate Siamese Dream live and Lollapalooza was proof of that. I heard the same thing after their VMA Disarm performance (I personally love the '94 era). Lots of people hated it, but it won over a lot of skeptics as well.

 
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:28 PM   #92
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Oh, Billy was so clever NOT to tell he gave it to him.
And just to stumble a few days later in his show, NOT talking about the contest and what he thought about it.
But telling with a winy voice, he didn't want to talk about the situation with D'arcy.
Not proof.

 
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Old 09-18-2018, 09:56 PM   #93
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:34 PM   #94
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I enjoyed the first 20mins or so of the interview, and thought the Lollapalooza comment was pretty cool.

I remember going to school after the show the next day and having to listen to the same boring argument that SP were studio magicians. That they couldn't replicate Siamese Dream live and Lollapalooza was proof of that. I heard the same thing after their VMA Disarm performance (I personally love the '94 era). Lots of people hated it, but it won over a lot of skeptics as well.
Yeah a popular narrative that I've heard from a lot of old-times fans was that they "sucked live". I was smoking weed with some guy outside of a Pixies show last year and he was at the 94 Lollapalooza and he was like "man, the Smashing Pumpkins fucking sucked. They're absolutely terrible live" but all of the footage I've seen of the era is kick ass... Sure, it's different, but not in a bad way.

 
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:56 AM   #95
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Is this the end version of Billy's clown makeup?


His stage makeup for the Shiny and Bright tour is so... stupid. It looks like an 11 year-old thought it up. This photo is a bit different from what he'd had on stage for the beginning half of the tour, though--those sorta "cracks" or something coming out of the corner of his eyes--which were also really amateur-looking.

It's like he tried to do Adore Tour 2.0 makeup. But at least back in 1998, he could get a pass for the zombie/dead/mourning eye makeup, since his mom died, Melvoin died, that fan in the front row died, his best friend in the band got booted out, etc, etc. Now, in 2018, it just looks ridiculous.

 
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:07 AM   #96
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His stage makeup for the Shiny and Bright tour is so... stupid. It looks like an 11 year-old thought it up. This photo is a bit different from what he'd had on stage for the beginning half of the tour, though--those sorta "cracks" or something coming out of the corner of his eyes--which were also really amateur-looking.

It's like he tried to do Adore Tour 2.0 makeup. But at least back in 1998, he could get a pass for the zombie/dead/mourning eye makeup, since his mom died, Melvoin died, that fan in the front row died, his best friend in the band got booted out, etc, etc. Now, in 2018, it just looks ridiculous.
Plus he was young and slim.

 
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:15 AM   #97
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His stage makeup for the Shiny and Bright tour is so... stupid. It looks like an 11 year-old thought it up. This photo is a bit different from what he'd had on stage for the beginning half of the tour, though--those sorta "cracks" or something coming out of the corner of his eyes--which were also really amateur-looking.

It's like he tried to do Adore Tour 2.0 makeup. But at least back in 1998, he could get a pass for the zombie/dead/mourning eye makeup, since his mom died, Melvoin died, that fan in the front row died, his best friend in the band got booted out, etc, etc. Now, in 2018, it just looks ridiculous.
Thats because Lindy Strawfuzzy came up with it. She is so 'creative'

 
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:38 PM   #98
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The latest band pic is a complete and total fucking embarrassment.

 
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:10 PM   #99
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I was at Lallapaloza in '94 and they were great. Trust me.

 
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:56 PM   #100
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THIS is the crappy eye make up Corgan is obviously wearing in the "Silvery Sometimes" video:






YES, Billy. You are your own producer, director, actor...
So why should you need a visagist to look like a clown?

Some advices from more talented make-up artists, Alice Cooper and Gene Simmons:




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Old 09-19-2018, 11:43 PM   #101
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The latest band pic is a complete and total fucking embarrassment.
Lol I was reading an off topic section of a baseball forum and someone posted that image and everyone was laughing about it.

The guy that posted the picture said "lol everything about this picture..."

Another dude typed this about Jeff

"The guy on the right looks like he's having an existential crisis."


 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:15 AM   #102
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Is this the end version of Billy's clown makeup?

Billy's hard on for wrestling has leaked further over into the Pumpkins as he dresses up and childishly/half assily paints his face to play the part of , the arty/tea loving wrestler everyone hates because they find him pretentious and annoying. I imagine the prerecorded opening video monologue for Zero on this tour as his wrestling character speaking in the ring while everyone in the crowd eyerolls him trying to appear intellectual.


 
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:52 AM   #103
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I distinctly remember Zane calling Billy's Machina era dress sense 'stupid' on national television about 17 years ago. Obviously Billy didn't see it otherwise this interview would not have happened.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:46 AM   #104
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I distinctly remember Zane calling Billy's Machina era dress sense 'stupid' on national television about 17 years ago. Obviously Billy didn't see it otherwise this interview would not have happened.
It’s fucking bizarre Billy has gone back that style. He has zero self-awareness. It doesn’t connect with any audience, in fact it’s actively repelling the mainstream nostalgia audience he’s chasing for $$$.

Nobody relates to that look, or thinks it looks cool, or wants to hear a 50 year old bald guy with shit face make-up in a black goth dress.

His Zwan dress down look and Zeitgeist overalls were a ton better.

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Old 09-20-2018, 07:37 AM   #105
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:41 AM   #106
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I actually thought the Zeitgeist look was cool.

At the time I was actually assuming that they'd go for the sorta look that they're doing now in order to capitalize on the emo craze. All of those other bands at the time like My Chemical Romance and The Used went huge on the makeup, so it was refreshing to see the guys come back embracing none of it.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:54 AM   #107
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The white overalls, stripey sleeve cult leader look worked better than the black dress and face paint.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:26 AM   #109
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zEITGEIST OUTFITS WERE EMBARRASSING,

mAKE UP EVEN MORE

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:33 AM   #110
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Jeff must have hated the cone collar. Only wore it a few times...

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:06 PM   #111
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selfixed The fog machine had it's biggest day since John Carpenter.
lindastrawberry @selfixed hahha ��





Corgan texting on Instagram:


Think I figured it out. Jeff actually has a gun to James' back in the photo. You can see James trying not to react to having the barrel shoved in his spine.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:15 PM   #112
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is that what they're calling it these days?

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:37 PM   #113
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The new photo is atrocious but I am pleased that Jimmy still pulls of the glam/goth thing better than Billy.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:45 PM   #114
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Lol I was reading an off topic section of a baseball forum and someone posted that image and everyone was laughing about it.
Give me a link so I can join in.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:19 PM   #115
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you gonna share your "masturbating in the girls' bathroom" story there too?

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:21 PM   #116
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Of course not; it wouldn't be appropriate.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:22 PM   #117
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nice semi-colon

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:55 PM   #118
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Ur dad has a nice semi colon

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:06 PM   #119
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Am I the only one who doesn't care about the makeup/band image enough to hate it?

At least Corgan looked like he was having fun on the tour. Three-hour sets, and he still looked like a happy 12-year-old running around in a Batman costume.

That's more than I could say about him for the past decade, during which he looked consistently miserable and bored.

He was totally just going through the motions when I saw him during that Oceania tour.

 
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:08 PM   #120
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The new music so far conisists of one okay song and one terrible song, though, so I'm all for criticizing Boulevard Cognac for that.

 
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