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Old 02-22-2018, 07:13 PM   #31
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closet? bruh you ever hear of The Marked?
I do know the history (though I only ever heard one demo tape and would be interested in more).

It's just that I don't think he ever lets that part of himself surface anymore, but it's still there. I think if he did let his morbid/gloomy/whathaveyou tendencies out a bit his music would be a bit better off for it. Somehere in the verbal diahhrea that was the Nexus he said DFN was going to have something of a goth music vibe to it (which considering that awful wrestling music promo piece, wouldn't have turned out well at all).

You watch him in the Ava Adore video and he's plainly enjoying hamming it up and being Nosferatu.

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:30 PM   #32
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billy corgan is literally incapable of writing a good song.

he wrote lots of them in the '90s, they were personal, and written with actual emotion, feeling and intent.

now it's all about cash flow, marketing to "the kidz" (apparently he thinks the kidz want run2me), etc. he hasn't written a personal lyric about his own life in 20 years.

of course, if he was to write a song about his own life, it would be about wrestling, alex jones, or how he demands 34/22/22/22, how he stole d'arcy's bass equipment, how he loves trump etc.

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:37 PM   #33
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You don't think he's written any songs about his kid yet?

What about Diaperz? Auggie-Jupe?

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 09:01 PM   #34
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billy corgan is literally incapable of writing a good song.

he wrote lots of them in the '90s, they were personal, and written with actual emotion, feeling and intent.

now it's all about cash flow, marketing to "the kidz" (apparently he thinks the kidz want run2me), etc. he hasn't written a personal lyric about his own life in 20 years.

of course, if he was to write a song about his own life, it would be about wrestling, alex jones, or how he demands 34/22/22/22, how he stole d'arcy's bass equipment, how he loves trump etc.
nah it's not true he hasn't written a personal lyric in 20 years. just not very many. see: pomp and circumstances

What was once new now gone
What was once praised now wrong
As they go, we can say we know
But what do we know
But warm sunshine and graves
Donít we see
Whatís bitter to taste

Torn, broken and frayed
Donít we face
War, sunshine and graves
Wonít you stay

ícause I wonít tell
I wonít tell a soul
That Iím mad as hell
Torn, broken and frayed
Iím torn, broken and frayed
No, Iím cold, worn out and shamed

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:18 PM   #35
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If Corgan just stopped announcing every time he's gotten an idea for something, people wouldn't be able to call him out for never following through on anything.

Ninety percent of being reliable is just never committing to anything in the first place. If we all made a grand proclamation every time we intended to do something, we'd all look like flakes, too.

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:20 PM   #36
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Be like Radiohead: don't announce albums until three days before release. Or three days after, as the case may be. "If you guys haven't noticed, we put an album out over the weekend. You can listen to it, if you want."

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:21 PM   #37
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Also, be like Radiohead: write music that's actually good.

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 10:25 PM   #38
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Radiohead sucks tho

 
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Old 02-22-2018, 11:16 PM   #39
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"billy is a closet goth"... lol. he makes no pretending.
dude wishes he was dark and could wear black makeup all day. but instead he's bald.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 12:56 PM   #40
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nah it's not true he hasn't written a personal lyric in 20 years. just not very many. see: pomp and circumstances

What was once new now gone
What was once praised now wrong
As they go, we can say we know
But what do we know
But warm sunshine and graves
Donít we see
Whatís bitter to taste

Torn, broken and frayed
Donít we face
War, sunshine and graves
Wonít you stay

ícause I wonít tell
I wonít tell a soul
That Iím mad as hell
Torn, broken and frayed
Iím torn, broken and frayed
No, Iím cold, worn out and shamed
Oh, my mistake. He wrote one kinda personal song 11 years ago, guys.
Those lyrics (and the song) are just bad. They're so bad they make ZWAN lyrics seem good.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:10 PM   #41
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P+C (at least live) is great. fite me

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:18 PM   #42
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"billy is a closet goth"... lol. he makes no pretending.
dude wishes he was dark and could wear black makeup all day. but instead he's bald.
Nothing stopping him from putting on a top hat and going all senior citizen dracula except his sense of self-consciousness. He probably thinks he can't pull it off anymore due to his age.

But anyway:

Pale Horse was about his mom on dope while hospitalized. It's more like "There doesn't appear to be anything personal on Monuments because nobody is able to figure out what the fuck he's talking about anymore."

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:20 PM   #43
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no way in hell anything on monuments is personal. it's complete trash; 9x 3 minute formulaic pop songs with shit vocals and some random fuck on drums

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:22 PM   #44
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like who the hell comes up with tommy lee as a notable drummer? like for power you'd think grohl or bonham

though i will say tom is a good name for a drummer

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Old 02-23-2018, 02:03 PM   #47
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like who the hell comes up with tommy lee as a notable drummer? like for power you'd think grohl or bonham

though i will say tom is a good name for a drummer
The drums don't even sound big on Monuments.

 
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Oh, my mistake. He wrote one kinda personal song 11 years ago, guys.
Those lyrics (and the song) are just bad. They're so bad they make ZWAN lyrics seem good.
dude, i'm just saying, he's not incapable of writing personal lyrics anymore. he just doesn't do it very often and it's probably very hard for him. i don't disagree that his lyrics are generally terrible.

also i like pomp.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:21 PM   #49
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Tommy Lee was just a name for Billy to use to try to move some records

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:23 PM   #50
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James put his name on this shit how bad can it be

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:23 PM   #51
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Tommy Lee's drumming was good on MtaE. Not sure what you're whining about.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:24 PM   #52
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Pomp album version is so bad i was pretty blown away by how good the live version sounded

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:43 PM   #53
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ďBut letís just say itís as far reaching as anything weíve ever done togetherĒ

Typical oversell

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:20 PM   #54
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Tommy Lee's drumming was good on MtaE. Not sure what you're whining about.
yeah he sounded fine, but just seems like a weird choice. motley crue is so far from the pumpkins aesthetically and philosophically

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:30 PM   #55
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It's not that off. Half of the songs on that album sound like brainless glam metal songs.

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Old 02-23-2018, 06:04 PM   #56
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Half of the songs on that album sound like brainless glam metal songs.
billy on rock and roll autopilot will always be better than billy trying too hard.

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 01:28 AM   #57
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ogilala had a lot of personal lyrics. i really liked it for that reason, for the first time in over a decade he finally sounded like he gave a shit.

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 03:17 AM   #58
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James put his name on this shit how bad can it be
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Here's a pro tip: all eight songs will suck ass.
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"Sometimes Silvery" sounds like the sequel to "Being Beige." God help us all.

 
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