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Old 07-03-2005, 08:25 PM   #1
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is such an amazing song, and if no version ever exists than the shitty quality Glass House, I will be depressed,

 
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:10 PM   #2
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is such an amazing song, and if no version ever exists than the shitty quality Glass House, I will be depressed,
It's been so long since I listened to those songs that I can't even remember how that one goes. I really should get my PC up and running again (it has all my Pumpkins/Zwan audio-of-yore on it). It's propping up my TV at the moment.

I was always a big fan of "El-a-Noy".

 
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:35 PM   #3
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I can still remember sat up on the pc sometime in the early hours of the morning when that was put online after the first show and downloading it and being quite excited.

Of course my most prominent memory of listening to that first recording at the glass house was the cock in the crowd who did the two most hilarious and stupid screams in the history of crowds on bootlegs.

 
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:19 PM   #4
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I'm getting tired of everyone talking about how great this song is. It's not that amazing. It's just faster than most zwan stuff.


People get over that song. It's not even close to being the best of the first 12 zwan songs.

 
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Old 07-03-2005, 10:41 PM   #5
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i don't think i've even heard anyone mention that song before here... dunno why you are getting so defensive about someone liking it... It was my favorite song at the end of the night.

I remember being at the Glass House show, and just how amazing that song will always be for me... just the mystery of the whole show was amazing, and getting to observe the band afterward (who knew there would be such a combustion afterward) when they all hugged each other in the shitty ass hooker sludge covered couch green room of the Glass House.

I think Chrysanthemum was obviously a part of Billy trying to convey that the past is to be let go of and its time to go full steam ahead... oh and Jimmy's drumming on it is fucking fantastic too.

 
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Old 07-03-2005, 11:42 PM   #6
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i liked it better when it was called Speed.

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:08 AM   #7
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this is the best because of the guitars and drums just have a lot of power, it's a rocker. thouch, the best rocker would have to be the spilled milk extended version from one of the intersection shows. if i remember correctly. anyways chrysanthemum is one of my favorites along with to love you.
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Old 07-04-2005, 03:34 AM   #8
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i liked it better when it was called Speed.

haha!! thats what i think of every time i hear it. sounds like Speed from the Double Door recording. must be why this is one of my favorite zwaaaan songs.

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 03:36 AM   #9
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'Life Begins Again' (the track) on Jimmy's record sounds a lot like it, at least the way it begins.

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 03:59 AM   #10
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I can still remember sat up on the pc sometime in the early hours of the morning when that was put online after the first show and downloading it and being quite excited.
Heh I remember getting home from that show and going online and downloading it. And I was like whoa these songs rule! Cause it was hard to tell at the show.

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 04:28 AM   #11
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jimmy's crazy!!!!

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 05:07 AM   #12
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:03 AM   #13
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I think people like(d) it so much because it was the first song ever played to begin an exciting and promising era before the rainbows and bastardization of the dream.

And a lot of the other reasons mentioned here were factors as well.

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:07 AM   #14
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their best song was "glorius" in my opinion and no studio version of that either

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:23 AM   #15
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their best song was "glorius" in my opinion and no studio version of that either
Glorious was excellent. Nicely done.

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 10:24 AM   #16
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a new poetry, the rockin version

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 11:17 AM   #17
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their best song was "glorius" in my opinion and no studio version of that either
it is recorded, to the best of my knowledge...just hasn't surfaced... yet...

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:07 PM   #18
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Oh yeah, Glorious! When I heard that track, I was sure it was going to be the best song on the Zwan album. Oh well...

A proper studio version of that would be great.

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 05:07 PM   #19
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Oh yeah, Glorious! When I heard that track, I was sure it was going to be the best song on the Zwan album. Oh well...

A proper studio version of that would be great.
Amen to that!

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 05:11 PM   #20
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Chrysantuemum sucks.

The Shining Path and Cast a Stone are much better

Edit: and The Empty Sea is pretty good too.

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Old 07-04-2005, 09:21 PM   #21
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"Sunshine is all I wanted." oops!

 
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Old 07-04-2005, 10:47 PM   #22
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Obviously, there are better songs than Chrysanthemum, but I think this was a song that could have and should have been on the record.

 
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:11 AM   #23
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No, it shouldn't have. It sounds like a fucking Blink 182 song.

 
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:51 AM   #24
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No, it shouldn't have. It sounds like a fucking Blink 182 song.
blink what???

what are they?

slaves from the 3rd world country?
like mine.

 
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Old 07-05-2005, 01:53 AM   #25
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i too was at the glass house.. after the year of anticipation of what it would sound like chrysanthemum was the first song outta zwan that the world really got exposed too (except the warm up shows which were much smaller, and no recordings leaked at the time)

the crowd went ballistic after it was over, and it was this insane rush of energy... ill always relate the song to that moment in time..

i love it to this day.

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Old 07-24-2005, 03:37 AM   #26
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Dammit, I just this last week discovered the Chysanthemums from 11/18, 11/20, and 11/21 shows. At least I can hear the song now.

 
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:47 AM   #27
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Dammit, I just this last week discovered the Chysanthemums from 11/18, 11/20, and 11/21 shows. At least I can hear the song now.
Good deal. There are a few decent sounding recordings of those early Zwan shows. It always drives me nuts when people complain about the "screaming" on Chrysanthemum, when its really only prevalent on one of the less-good sources of 11/16. The version of the Glass House show I've got sounds just fine.

 
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:51 AM   #28
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Good deal. There are a few decent sounding recordings of those early Zwan shows. It always drives me nuts when people complain about the "screaming" on Chrysanthemum, when its really only prevalent on one of the less-good sources of 11/16. The version of the Glass House show I've got sounds just fine.
I've seen the Glass House show several places, but it's always had the screamer. Where did you find your source?

 
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I've seen the Glass House show several places, but it's always had the screamer. Where did you find your source?
Pretty sure I got it off the hub back when the shows first came out. I imagine its still on there, though I can't be sure since I don't go there near as much as I used to.

I've just always found it surprising that so many people have heard the near unlistenable version of Chrysanthemum (I only listened to it a couple times, yet I remember it well) and not the better versions of that show or the other shows.

 
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