PARIS show discussion thread. - Page 11

Steve Holt · 05-22-2007, 06:40 PM

i don't really care that people are bitching about singles. it just astounds me that there are that many people who are that fucking stupid (delusional?) to think that they were going to avoid singles as much as possible.

pale_princess · 05-22-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mpp

i bet i feel as sorry for you as you feel sorry for me

i just wish everyone could enjoy it

this is a serious post; i am not trying to be a smartass

i mean goddamn, i saw them on 12/2/00 and i NEVER THOUGHT i would see billy and jimmy perform old sp songs again...i thought i was listening to the last rocket, silverfuck, etc but i was wrong

and it's SEVEN YEARS LATER and now we get to hear all these songs again in all their glory; this is reason to have a smile on your face, not be cresfallen

i was at 12/2/00. you know who i waited in line to be in front of? james. you know who i was in front of the whole time? james. you know who was the only person to give james a gift before the last show, right before billy was swarmed with teddy bears? me.

they ended on the right note. the songs, to me, are not in "all their glory." glory *******s james.

and i'm still pissed they didn't play soma at the last show! so hah.

Nate the Grate · 05-22-2007, 06:41 PM

Wow, sounds like some of you have never been to a concert before. They played a ton of songs, and the setlist is incredibly varied for a band which such a vast catalog. Home? Winterlong? Annie-Dog? Untitled? Those were unexpected. Very promising setlist, and good to see that they played so many new songs, so we'll be able to "hear" the album before it leaks.

SpFission · 05-22-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the Grate

Wow, sounds like some of you have never been to a concert before. They played a ton of songs, and the setlist is incredibly varied for a band which such a vast catalog. Home? Winterlong? Annie-Dog? Untitled? Those were unexpected. Very promising setlist, and good to see that they played so many new songs, so we'll be able to "hear" the album before it leaks.

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paranoid · 05-22-2007, 06:43 PM

i remember reading somewere on this board that they were rehearsng 30 tunes for this tour... so this setlist is about 30 tunes.

I hope they play this exact setlist every night of this entire tour just to piss this board off. that would be aces.

Effloresce · 05-22-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by waltermcphilp

is this thread worth reading?

No.

Everyone is bitching about the setlist (to be expected) and Corgan's fashion sense (what were you people expecting him to do)

I specifically remember Corgan saying in a Pitchfork interview (in mid '05) that if SP came back, so would the dress most likely.

And the setlist is pretty damn good. No Gish, but that's my only real complaint.

Reissdorf · 05-22-2007, 06:46 PM

I'm quite satisfied with this setlist... it could use a tune or two off of Gish though.

TheBigG753 · 05-22-2007, 06:46 PM

I guess no one here wants the Pumpkins to promote their new album at all...lol. They played close to 30 songs, that's not good enough? Should they have had a 20 hour show where they just played every song they could fit in there?

SpFission · 05-22-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by paranoid

i remember reading somewere on this board that they were rehearsng 30 tunes for this tour... so this setlist is about 30 tunes.

I hope they play this exact setlist every night of this entire tour just to piss this board off. that would be aces.

IMO that setlist was amazing. I don't know what these lame turds are all complaining about.

paranoid · 05-22-2007, 06:48 PM

Really really happy to see hummer, home, shame and silverfuck on this list. Awesome!

Not so enthused about GATGC or winterlong, but we'll see how it sounds from the recording if there is one).

surprised about annie-dog, must be i ncluded to showcase the new pianist.

It's sweet to have muzzle and untitled.

can't wait to hear the new tunes.

cyclonus5150 · 05-22-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theghostchild

I have to agree...as a longtime fan and board member since 1997, under a previous name, the board did change...as Billy posted int eh Chicago Tribune in 2005...he wanted his songs back, etc, etc....so why not stop your bitching and be happy they are back and playing. I love to hear the b-sides, rarities, "non-commercial" hits just as much as the next die hard, but the fact of the matter is the majority of the people attending these shows, particularly the ones in larger venues, wouldn't know the difference if it were an old song or a new song off Zeitgeist. We should be happy, stop the bitching, and enjoy the fact that "our band" is back.

Here here. I too was an original board member but had to create a new screen name and I'm hoping that the fun will come back soon once everyone realizes what we've got....a second chance!

jack_kerouac03 · 05-22-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pale_princess

i was at 12/2/00. you know who i waited in line to be in front of? james. you know who i was in front of the whole time? james. you know who was the only person to give james a gift before the last show, right before billy was swarmed with teddy bears? me.

they ended on the right note. the songs, to me, are not in "all their glory." glory *******s james.

and i'm still pissed they didn't play soma at the last show! so hah.

what did you give James?

smashapumpkin · 05-22-2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SpFission

IMO that setlist was amazing. I don't know what these lame turds are all complaining about.

agreed

Duke · 05-22-2007, 06:50 PM

The setlist is amazing. I would love to have seen that show. It still feels weird the thought of the pumpkins without James. That will definitely take some time to get used to.

pale_princess · 05-22-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jack_kerouac03

what did you give James?

flowaz.

theghostchild · 05-22-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoid

I hope they play this exact setlist every night of this entire tour just to piss this board off. that would be aces.

HAHAHAHAHA...That would be hilarious....I can here the small violins playing for many of you already!

cneumeye · 05-22-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AndySlash

Well, I know I would hope that the encores wouldn't be planned out ahead of time. I like it when bands cater to the moment and play things in the encore according to their whims as opposed to knowing even before the show starts what they'll be playing for a closer.

Being that this is the first show, it's fine, but I'd hope down the road this might change.

You are completely gullible and naive if you think that bands don't have their encores planned ahead of time.

jack_kerouac03 · 05-22-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cneumeye

You are completely gullible and naive if you think that bands don't have their encores planned ahead of time.

There are some bands that have been playing together for so long that they can whip out something they haven't played in a long time on a whim.

Unless Jeff and Ginger learn Starla really quick between encores, I think these are the songs we will see for a while until they eventually work in others.

sweetanthony · 05-22-2007, 07:13 PM

Songs that are important to this performance... (other than the whole thing, duh)

*HOME
*WINTERLONG
*(electric) 1979
*UNTITLED (oh, yes, finally live!)
*SHAME
*MUZZLE (electric, again)

Billy had to make the most of this concert and that's why he had them play so many classics (or singles to the obsessed who likes non-singles better for other reasons).

But these listed above shows that Billy and Jimmy are really ready to spread their creative wings at the Residencies... maybe not the Festivals, but when they have the time, they're going to branch off and we're going to see the pure brilliance of their musicianship.

I am 99.9% pleased with this setlist (no Soma or Ruby) and can't wait for the rest of the shows!

polyethylene · 05-22-2007, 07:15 PM

I have a feeling we won't hear Soma or Mayonaise again until James Iha comes back...if he ever comes back.

somaziro · 05-22-2007, 07:15 PM

i am so excited that they are playing 'home' - one of my fav. songs!

killtrocity · 05-22-2007, 07:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0qp94wN980

drbenway · 05-22-2007, 07:20 PM

Regarding the conspicuous number of "hits" in the setlist:

This is the first time these songs have been played in seven years. Not everyone (including the band) is a pathetic fuck sitting at his or her computer listening over and over again to bootlegs from 2000. It's not like time stopped between then and now. I know it's hard to see beyond the borders of Netphoria, but life did go on, believe it or not. For most people (again, including the band), this is the first time these songs have been heard live in years.

dudehitscar · 05-22-2007, 07:21 PM

i really love the outfit without the cape

smashingjj · 05-22-2007, 07:21 PM

Say about James what you want but Soma and Mayonaise are two of the 5 best pumpkins songs.

byoung88 · 05-22-2007, 07:22 PM

dude keep em coming!

dudehitscar · 05-22-2007, 07:22 PM

For God and Country sounds GREAT

shannon · 05-22-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smashingjj

Say about James what you want but Soma and Mayonaise are two of the 5 best pumpkins songs.

yup!

somaziro · 05-22-2007, 07:22 PM

god and country sounds like something straight from 'the hideout' cd's... the melody sounds like i dont remember which song it was...

ratking17 · 05-22-2007, 07:22 PM

prison jumpsuits is the theme

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05-22-2007, 06:40 PM	#301
Steve Holt Demi-God Location: I'm Darth Nihilus Posts: 469	i don't really care that people are bitching about singles. it just astounds me that there are that many people who are that fucking stupid (delusional?) to think that they were going to avoid singles as much as possible.

05-22-2007, 06:41 PM	#303
Nate the Grate Minion of Satan Posts: 6,212	Wow, sounds like some of you have never been to a concert before. They played a ton of songs, and the setlist is incredibly varied for a band which such a vast catalog. Home? Winterlong? Annie-Dog? Untitled? Those were unexpected. Very promising setlist, and good to see that they played so many new songs, so we'll be able to "hear" the album before it leaks.

05-22-2007, 06:43 PM	#305
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,519	i remember reading somewere on this board that they were rehearsng 30 tunes for this tour... so this setlist is about 30 tunes. I hope they play this exact setlist every night of this entire tour just to piss this board off. that would be aces.

05-22-2007, 06:46 PM	#307
Reissdorf Pledge Posts: 81	I'm quite satisfied with this setlist... it could use a tune or two off of Gish though.

05-22-2007, 06:46 PM	#308
TheBigG753 Pledge Posts: 171	I guess no one here wants the Pumpkins to promote their new album at all...lol. They played close to 30 songs, that's not good enough? Should they have had a 20 hour show where they just played every song they could fit in there?

05-22-2007, 06:48 PM	#310
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,519	Really really happy to see hummer, home, shame and silverfuck on this list. Awesome! Not so enthused about GATGC or winterlong, but we'll see how it sounds from the recording if there is one). surprised about annie-dog, must be i ncluded to showcase the new pianist. It's sweet to have muzzle and untitled. can't wait to hear the new tunes.

05-22-2007, 06:50 PM	#314
Duke Demi-God Location: New York City Posts: 260	The setlist is amazing. I would love to have seen that show. It still feels weird the thought of the pumpkins without James. That will definitely take some time to get used to.

05-22-2007, 07:13 PM	#319
sweetanthony Ownz Location: under a rock, er, chicago Posts: 601	Songs that are important to this performance... (other than the whole thing, duh) HOME WINTERLONG (electric) 1979 UNTITLED (oh, yes, finally live!) SHAME MUZZLE (electric, again) Billy had to make the most of this concert and that's why he had them play so many classics (or singles to the obsessed who likes non-singles better for other reasons). But these listed above shows that Billy and Jimmy are really ready to spread their creative wings at the Residencies... maybe not the Festivals, but when they have the time, they're going to branch off and we're going to see the pure brilliance of their musicianship. I am 99.9% pleased with this setlist (no Soma or Ruby) and can't wait for the rest of the shows!

05-22-2007, 07:15 PM	#320
polyethylene Pledge Posts: 71	I have a feeling we won't hear Soma or Mayonaise again until James Iha comes back...if he ever comes back.

05-22-2007, 07:15 PM	#321
somaziro Ownz Location: Austin, TX Posts: 872	i am so excited that they are playing 'home' - one of my fav. songs!

05-22-2007, 07:18 PM	#322
killtrocity Saturday Night Goth Location: POLLOS Posts: 9,207	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0qp94wN980

05-22-2007, 07:20 PM	#323
drbenway Demi-God Posts: 309	Regarding the conspicuous number of "hits" in the setlist: This is the first time these songs have been played in seven years. Not everyone (including the band) is a pathetic fuck sitting at his or her computer listening over and over again to bootlegs from 2000. It's not like time stopped between then and now. I know it's hard to see beyond the borders of Netphoria, but life did go on, believe it or not. For most people (again, including the band), this is the first time these songs have been heard live in years.

05-22-2007, 07:21 PM	#324
dudehitscar Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,652	i really love the outfit without the cape

05-22-2007, 07:21 PM	#325
smashingjj real estate cowboy Location: if Monsanto and Purdue Pharma had a baby Posts: 36,901	Say about James what you want but Soma and Mayonaise are two of the 5 best pumpkins songs.

05-22-2007, 07:22 PM	#326
byoung88 Demi-God Posts: 481	dude keep em coming!

05-22-2007, 07:22 PM	#327
dudehitscar Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,652	For God and Country sounds GREAT

05-22-2007, 07:22 PM	#329
somaziro Ownz Location: Austin, TX Posts: 872	god and country sounds like something straight from 'the hideout' cd's... the melody sounds like i dont remember which song it was...

05-22-2007, 07:22 PM	#330
ratking17 Ownz Location: York, PA Posts: 727	prison jumpsuits is the theme