Dean calls for Obama or Clinton to drop out after primaries in June

[redbreegull]

I think Obama might drop out if Hillary looked to be in lead but I can't see her dropping out no matter what unless she was completely mathematically destroyed.

[Nimrod's Son]

this is a really dumb thing for dean to ask

[redbreegull]

Dean is a crazy dude, everyone knows this. But it would GREATLY be to the advantage of the democrats for Obama and Clinton to follow his advice.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

dropping out in june isn't a tall order. i don't think a candidate needs to be decided right away or anything. but august sounds way too late in the game. but mccain will still be beat either way

[JokeyLoki]

I can see why he would say such a thing, but I don't think it would ever happen that cleanly.

If the super delegates decide it, at least one major group of people in the party will feel completely betrayed and disenfranchised, and could damage the party for years to come.

Dean's really screwed this all up, and I can't wait for the media to turn on him full force.

[Future Boy]

When did he say this? I know he said SD's should announce in June. Dean has been a disappointment, but Pelosi is really mucking things up. Reid looks good by simply keeping quiet.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

When did he say this? I know he said SD's should announce in June. Dean has been a disappointment, but Pelosi is really mucking things up. Reid looks good by simply keeping quiet.

He said it today I think, I read it on Yahoo news. I was just too lazy to put the link here.

[Andrew_Pakula]

Hillary should have dropped out already by now

[JokeyLoki]

Originally Posted by Andrew_Pakula

Hillary should have dropped out already by now

But she's won 7 of the 10 big states!!!11

(Yeah, you're probably right, but it's the Clintons...)

[Kahlo]

I'm enjoying watching the Daily show continually mock Hillary's campaign. I wish she would just quit tbh, she is fucking it up nicely for the democrats.

[The Melty Man]

Dean is a LOSER!!!!! Why do the Democrats have so many losers in their ranks, and why do they pay so much attention to them, instead of bothering to put up a credible candidate?

[Caine Walker]

Originally Posted by The Melty Man

Why do the Democrats have so many losers in their ranks, and why do they pay so much attention to them, instead of bothering to put up a credible candidate?

the pickin's are slim, man...

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by The Melty Man

Dean is a LOSER!!!!! Why do the Democrats have so many losers in their ranks, and why do they pay so much attention to them, instead of bothering to put up a credible candidate?

Well they pay attention to him because he's the head of the DNC...

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by JokeyLoki

But she's won 7 of the 10 big states!!!11

(Yeah, you're probably right, but it's the Clintons...)

most recent AP poll has her 9 points ahead of mccain. obama was one point ahead of mccain in the same poll.

just sayin'

[tear stained glass]

i'm not really convinced that this ongoing nomination process is "destroying the party." maybe i'm just out of the loop, but no one i know seems really adament about one candidate to the exclusion of the other. moreover, the media's going to want to blow this out of proportion for ratings purposes, although i'd imagine apathy towards the situation is setting in among many and actually driving people away from news broadcasts.

[Red Scarlet]

Originally Posted by tear stained glass

i'm not really convinced that this ongoing nomination process is "destroying the party." .

it's not.

and even if it was, republicans have a lot going against them this year. they're the ones that really need to be worrying.

[JokeyLoki]

Originally Posted by tear stained glass

maybe i'm just out of the loop, but no one i know seems really adament about one candidate to the exclusion of the other.

Exit polls from the last few primaries indicate that a sizeable chunk of voters either want their candidate, or none at all... they'd either vote for McCain, or stay home on election day.

[Caine Walker]

Originally Posted by JokeyLoki

Exit polls from the last few primaries indicate that a sizeable chunk of voters either want their candidate, or none at all... they'd either vote for McCain, or stay home on election day.

i have a feeling that their tunes will change.

[redbreegull]

People who vote against their own party because they are unhappy with the candidate are fucking retarded. I do not understand how anyone can logically do that.

"I am so unhappy that the candidate I wanted didn't get nominated that instead of voting for someone who for the most part represents my views I am going to vote for someone who is the polar opposite of what my party stands for."

[Future Boy]

There are centrists out there who see something to vote for in both parties, thats who everyone is courting in these things. I think those who say they wont vote might come around. Those who say they'll vote McCain are a bigger concern, thats not out of spite, they see something worth voting for.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

"I am so unhappy that the candidate I wanted didn't get nominated that instead of voting for someone who for the most part represents my views I am going to vote for someone who is the polar opposite of what my party stands for."

None of these three candidates are polar opposites on anything

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

None of these three candidates are polar opposites on anything

Have you heard of the war

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

Have you heard of the war

oh that thing in Iraq which Hillary is now pretending to be opposed to after supporting it wholly her entire pre-race career and which Obama will be unable to simply extract troops from without causing an even bigger problem? that thing?

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

oh that thing in Iraq which Hillary is now pretending to be opposed to after supporting it wholly her entire pre-race career and which Obama will be unable to simply extract troops from without causing an even bigger problem? that thing?

You make no point. Hillary and Obama both have pledged to remove troops from Iraq. McCain says they will stay 100 years if necessary. If this is not polar opposites I don't know what is. I fail to see how Hillary's past record or your faith in Obama's ability to remove troops successfully negates the fact that right now the two democrats are completely for ending the war and McCain is not.

Edit: That is not to say I trust Clinton very much, or believe a troop removal will necessarily be easy or successful, but their stances on the issue are opposite, which is what I said to begin with.

[Gish08]

Gary's mayor says the turnout in his city was lopsided enough for Obama to catch up, says Washington Post.

This could happen guys. This could signal the beginning of the end for the Clinton campaign.

[sega genesis]

obama's people are already studying how the electoral college will vote in certain areas order to determine who'd be the best running mate.

he's pretty much the presumptive democratic nominee. weirder things have happened, though

EDIT: %75 obama in lake county... its pretty much over, imo

[Future Boy]

This http://www.electoral-vote.com/index.html has been up the whole time.

The Hammond Mayor is on CNN now talking about the delay.

[Gish08]

The Clintons have canceled all TV and public appearances.

Senator Obama is going to win the nomination. Expect Hillary to save face by doing something to simply get FL and MI seated, but she's going to concede. It's over.

[sega genesis]

Originally Posted by Gish08

Expect Hillary to save face by doing something to simply get FL and MI seated, but she's going to concede. It's over.

i really dont think so. unless she wants to do a "gotcha" where if obama loses in november she can say 'i told you so' and open up things for 2012. but it was pretty much 08 or bust to her.

[sega genesis]

http://cache.jezebel.com/assets/reso...gnholyshit.jpg