Billy Should Just Go Solo Again

[fuzzyroes]

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[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by BurtSampson

the guitar sound on The Future Embrace is so sexy

Linda Strawberry, however, is a fucking dog.

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[Shallowed]

Why the fuck should anyone care about who wants to fuck or not fuck someone?

[dreams of glass]

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[dreams of glass]

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

It's like, I don't even know what he's trying to do here, but it's awesome

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

Surprised this doesn't have more views.




good quality here

*ahem*

[dreams of glass]

[fuzzyroes]

Not the greatest lead single, but you have to appreciate the experimentalism of it all.

I still say Mina Loy or Camera Eye would have made great first singles and probably would have resonated with a lot more of the casual SP fans.

[fuzzyroes]

Corgan was off my radar at the time the solo stuff dropped and I saw that video and was like "ehh... this is lame".

I like it now after listening to it a bunch of times, but it's not the kind of track that grabs you on first listen.

[Funbags]

TFE short film is great. I love the dreamlike combination of Victorian imagery and futuristic sounds. Fucking brilliant.



This era is like the last known whereabouts of Adult Billy Corgan.

[fuzzyroes]

As much as I love a lot of the Zeitgeist era performances and some of the songs, It probably would have been better for Billy if he stayed on that track and saw where it progressed to.

Or at least bring Jim back and call it SP and continue on the same path that he was originally on.

[Mals Marola]

bollo is always switching gears abruptly though, do you really think there was a chance of that happening? i think he was afraid of getting seriously depressed again or something

actually these days are the first time since probably the gish and sd era where bill does kinda seem to be on some kind of consistent path, musically and/or otherwise i guess

and yeah i do like that film a lot

hadn't even heard walking shade until like a year after i had tfe on account of the "bootlegged" copy i had was missing that track for whatever reason
shit, i don't think i was even a huge sp fan when i first heard that album or anything but i still liked a lot of it

[Tumora]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

It sounds like a Machina track I would skip. Pretty much that's what his whole solo album sounds like.

I always wondered if some of his solo songs were written in 1998/99...when he originally wanted to do a solo album.

[werideatdusk]

Like a sap, the opening refrain from "Age of Innocence" hit me in the face, a manifesto for the populism (or sell-out-ness) inherent to SP:

"We dismissed the back roads to ride these streets unafraid, resigned to scraping paint from our bones unashamed"

FutureEmbrace was kind of a back road!

[warewolf95]

Billy needs to just either disband the "Pumpkins" or reunite with Jimmy.

As far as im concerned, TSP died when Jimmy left. The new stuff is all pretty much fucking solo Corgan branded as TSP for recognition purposes. Fuck that.

Billy. You can do awesome when you don't give a shit what people think. So disband this current band and fucking go legit solo again. Please

Or you can just reunite Zwan...

[houseofglass11]

It's not like having Jimmy made people like Zeitgeist any better.

Jimmy does the same fills and the same tricks over and over again. He's flashy, but it's always the same elaborate tom section or machine gun snare fills. It got really old to my ears on Zeitgeist. It's nice to hear BC working with a different drummer that isn't Byrne on MTAE.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by bye june

The Future Embrace is a really great album.

It is....and one of his last best shows. The era of Z and kazoo shows turned me off quite a bit until oceania came around.

[pumpkinfan1988]

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

And actually, for 2005, it's pretty advanced. It captures that whole retro 80's vibe that's going on now.

Is that what you call today's music? Well whatever it is it blows. I need heavy guitars/drums to block out that rap and pop crap that won't fuck off. Theres not enough competition right now and thats the problem, those other genres need to be put in their place. They are redundant and they need to be shown it.

[myosis]

I can't tell for sure but I was pretty convinced that The Future Embrace had some influence on 23 by blonde redhead, when that album came out. and i loved it.

i did listen to TFE all summer through in 2005. maybe some songs made me cringe a bit but nothing compared to what teargarden songs do to me.

[myosis]

also I must mention that when walking shade came out, I was proud of the path billy was taking. he seemed to have become a mature artist who is finding his own way and originality, whose credibility could only grow stronger with time.

that backfired. announcing the return of SP on the day TFE came out made the first dent in that credibility.

[null123]

There was an 80s vibe going on in 2005 too. And there will probably be an 80s vibe going on in 2025

[thedeadofnight]

I'm sure you were all this positive about TFE when it first came out. I'm also sure you all didn't say "just go back to loud guitars again". Lastly, i'm also sure that if Billy made another TFE style album, you'd all complement it.

[myosis]

when i talk about how i felt in 2005, what the fuck do you think it means

[myosis]

it's not as much about style than it's about delivery

[dreams of glass]

80's vibes have always been going on, but nowadays there is a definite focus on replicating or emulating it.

[bye june]

The Future Embrace is Billy's best post-2000 album. Really nice guitars and production, lyrics too. It It sounds very sincere and cohesive. The last time his vocals sounded really great.

That's what I think.

[T&T]

billy solo or sp8. no difference.

[lionheart0]

Originally Posted by T&T

billy solo or sp8. no difference.

Pretty much.

[krackhead]

I was at the NY show at bowry during the same week.... I remember that shit cuz I got in for free from krock radio 92.3

In fact that was the last time I saw bolly corgan live.

and the sweeet swwweet strawberry ass.

bolly got to touch her boobs.

[Mals Marola]

isn't the main difference between bill solo & sp-whatever by this point just the presence of jeff telling billy not to worry about public opinion between recordings
unless sp=howard being a neccessity for some reason in which case i 'onno