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05-03-2014, 08:04 PM | #31 |
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Clapton knew real pain and it reflects in his music.
Yeah, it's a different kind of pain than the traditional blues, but that's why it's relatable to me. And Clapton is of a rare breed of guitar players that are both technically good and emotionally moving. |
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05-03-2014, 08:08 PM | #32 |
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i get that ol' slowhand gives you that tingly feeling in your cockles, but he ain't rare.
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05-03-2014, 08:10 PM | #33 |
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yea my thought was that copeland was obviously listening to the wrong kind of jazz. he said he "grew up on it" so maybe he missed the hard bop or free jazz scene where it all really exploded and was basically stuck listening to big band or swing.
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05-03-2014, 08:12 PM | #34 |
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i was telling a guy at work about how robert johnsons original crossroads has more hair on it than claptons with an entire band and fuzz and RJ is just one dude and a guitar (though some believe he had a 2nd guitar player - some days i'm not so sure - i go back and forth)
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05-03-2014, 08:17 PM | #35 |
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Hey, Im gonna be honest and say I know shit all about traditional Blues.
But any sort of traditional music is boring as fuck to me. It's not until an artist comes around and finds a way to put it all together for white kids like me that I get that interested. |
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05-03-2014, 08:24 PM | #36 |
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its pretty easy to get into traditional blues (country blues) if you want to because the guys didn't record much music. its not like you have tons of albums to go through. its always less than 20-30 songs at the most. it wasn't until the 60s revival that things get confusing when these guys started re-recording material (if they were still alive)
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05-03-2014, 08:26 PM | #37 |
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john hurt recorded 13 songs in 1928 - boom discography
the complete robert johnson is only 41 tracks - most of them multiple takes of the same song |
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05-03-2014, 08:29 PM | #38 |
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someobdy like fred mcdowell recorded about a dozen songs in those days but really bit into the 60s revival and released hundreds more post-60s. 30 years after the original sessions.
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05-03-2014, 08:33 PM | #39 |
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i never got the sense that Kind of blue was about showing off...i mean that's something i hate so i understand why copeland, being a punk, would hate that shit too but i dunno. there is something about "modern jazz" like we're not talking about the last gasp of the art form in the 60s i think he's talking about 80s jazz contemporaries and lets face it, since the 60s, jazz sucks a bunch of dicks and is entirely about showing off. i mean you go to contemporary "jazz" clubs you're going to hear nothing but covers filled with self congratulatory solos. it's repulsive.
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05-03-2014, 08:36 PM | #40 |
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70s and 80s soul jazz was amazing though but i feel what you're getting at
i was thinking he was brought up on traditional 30s/40s big band/swing jazz obviously by an older person so he wouldn't have been introduced to the 50s/60s experimental jazz material he would have been more interested in "teh rock and rowl" |
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05-03-2014, 08:38 PM | #41 |
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to me what makes this type of jazz interesting is the transitions after the solos and the callbacks to the main theme. that's why everyone goes nuts after the solo, not during.
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05-03-2014, 08:39 PM | #42 |
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you bring it back to the main theme and then people are applauding like 'oh wow i see how it went from point a to point b and back again'
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05-03-2014, 08:40 PM | #43 |
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the solos are the tense durations and the callbacks to the theme are the relaxing points - i think its about tension - like a good fuck session
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05-03-2014, 08:42 PM | #44 |
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i'm not sure if fusion jazz falls under the umbrella of what you're talking about, but i would disagree that everything after the 60's is showing off.
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05-03-2014, 08:48 PM | #45 |
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the word fusion is a pretty touchy subject in the jazz community from my knowledge - it mostly is attributed to other types of music that has a touch of jazz in it, not the other way around
not sure if you were referring to me when i mentioned soul jazz... |
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05-03-2014, 08:49 PM | #46 |
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i don't even know what soul jazz is so enlighten me
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05-03-2014, 08:51 PM | #47 |
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05-03-2014, 08:51 PM | #48 |
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05-03-2014, 08:52 PM | #49 |
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I would say that I dont even like music really. I like Rock bands and attitude and lyrics
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05-03-2014, 08:53 PM | #50 |
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GET THA FUCK OUTTA HEAH
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05-03-2014, 08:53 PM | #51 |
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do you buy into the puck rock mindset
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05-03-2014, 08:54 PM | #52 |
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I like banda that incorporate Jazz into their music, but Jazz by itself is boring
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05-03-2014, 08:55 PM | #53 |
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05-03-2014, 08:56 PM | #54 |
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05-03-2014, 08:56 PM | #55 |
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muse, anyone?
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05-03-2014, 08:57 PM | #56 |
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i like rock, alternative rock, alterna-rock, and rock alternative mostly as you can see i am a huge music fan.
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05-03-2014, 08:58 PM | #57 |
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"i'm eccentric"
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05-03-2014, 08:59 PM | #58 |
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I like Muse, lol
I dont know why, and you can give me shit for it, but I really do. I saw them live and they were badass. |
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05-03-2014, 09:01 PM | #59 |
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i like pretty much everything except rap and country
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05-03-2014, 09:04 PM | #60 |
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Also, I love shoegaze and anything "experimental".
Just fuck off with those 10 minute guitar masterbation songs. God that shit is BORING. I hate that when I tell someone I like Rock they think of Metallica or something. Thats not Rock to me. Rock is 3 chords and attitude and lyrics. |
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