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06-27-2018, 10:54 PM | #181 | |
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if you think about it billy has been some type of dramatic on each one of SP's tours i think during 2007-8 he was just a little bitter about the absence of the other 2 members despite what he was saying in public.. him and jimmy still managed to put on some amazing live performances in that era.. jeff, lisa, and ginger also sounded great with the band in their beginnings too. |
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06-27-2018, 11:05 PM | #182 |
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even though this era is generally looked down upon it's just the last time i remember ever really feeling excited about the music and how billy still sounded half decent.
i'll take this era over anything post 2008 any day.. come on people proper use of the harmonica here (at least more so than the shit he was blowing over the ogilala songs live) rocking the hell out with uli jon roth!? yes, this is the last time billy was still somewhat cool |
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06-27-2018, 11:32 PM | #183 |
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Studio wise
OC > Solara > ZG Touring wise ZG >>>>> OC |
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06-28-2018, 01:21 AM | #184 |
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06-28-2018, 01:48 AM | #185 |
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07-07-2018, 03:33 AM | #186 |
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...remember when Billy talked about Jimmy making one mistake during the recording of 'United States' ? Has anyone ever been able to find that one mistake ?
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07-07-2018, 04:21 AM | #187 |
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Picking up the sticks?
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07-07-2018, 10:47 AM | #188 |
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D'arcy:
"Everyone who knows Billy knows he's ALWAYS been severely hypocritical! Why should everyone have to play perfectly? but he can sing like shit and so out of tune it's not even in the same key as the song? for years of shows! (if you want to call it singing) But that's perfectly FINE. It was TORTURE." |
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07-07-2018, 12:24 PM | #189 |
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IIRC he just miscounted the ambient section and comes in 2 bars earlier than he should have before the "Fight, I wanna fight" section. But it's barely noticeable in the sense that the rest of the band just moved up 2 bars while recording.
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07-07-2018, 12:36 PM | #190 | |
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I seem to be in the minority, but I saw the band 5 times between their "revival" and when Jimmy left, and I thought they played better each consecutive time I saw them. I was a big fan of the 20th anniversary shows |
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07-07-2018, 12:39 PM | #191 |
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07-07-2018, 12:55 PM | #192 |
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I believe BC said JC didn't play to a click but was metronomic through the entire take save for 1 note.
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07-07-2018, 02:23 PM | #193 | |
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I can only really recall just tons of dumb banter, nothing I'd think was the show going sour? So salacious |
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07-09-2018, 09:38 PM | #194 |
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Zeitgeist was kind of a mixed bag. I feel like it's an okay album, but it should have been a GREAT album. I remember how stoked I was when I heard that SP was back together (well, the two most important pieces of the band, at least). And there are some songs on it that I think are really good. I love Starz (I know people poke fun at it because the title is stupid but I think it's one of the more interesting songs on the album), Come On Let's Go, Bring the Light, United States and even Tarantula. But the rest of it is somewhere between average and bad. Although I suppose in a way, it's the album Pumpkins fans should have expected, since (as per usual) Billy, in his infinite wisdom, left some of the best songs he wrote off the album (Zeitgeist, STELLAR), and some were never even recorded in the studio (Gossamer).
I think the American Gothic songs were written after this album was finished, when SP was doing the residency shows but it's a shame that they didn't hold them for a full-length follow-up that might have gotten more attention, because those ones were really good and much better than the majority of Zeitgeist. Sunkissed in particular is fantastic. But anyway, even if the final verdict on Zeitgeist is that it sucked, I can't rip too badly because I got to see SP at one of the Asheville residency shows and it remains the best concert of my life. Three straight hours in a fairly small club and they fucking killed it. I'll never forget it and I caught Billy's guitar pick when he chucked it into the crowd during Silverfuck. It has little 0 on it. |
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07-22-2018, 03:03 AM | #195 |
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07-23-2018, 10:05 AM | #196 |
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I went back and listened to Zeitgeist the other day. Man, some of that album was worse than I remember. The vocals on Doomsday Clock and Orchid are especially shitty.
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07-24-2018, 08:54 AM | #197 |
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ZG had some memorable songs but it's not the kind of record I can listen to from start to finish (SD, Adore, Machina). I don’t revisit ZG. Oceania was easier to listen all the way through. Take The Celestials out of it and it’s a decent album.
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07-24-2018, 10:39 AM | #198 |
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If memory serves me right, there were a lot of songs written during the Zeitgeist sessions that didn't see the light of day (I think there was a billboard with song titles etc). Judging by how good Ma Belle and Stellar are, I'm sure there are some gems still unreleased
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07-24-2018, 10:42 AM | #199 |
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07-24-2018, 11:33 AM | #201 | |
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20th tour was great but you could hear it was the sound of a band cracking apart yet again |
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07-25-2018, 09:13 AM | #202 | |
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07-30-2018, 02:35 PM | #203 |
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Yeah. I feel like Byrne's involvement makes anything from that era an easy target. Not saying all of that material is good (and some of it really isn't) but I think replacing Jimmy with someone as young and inexperienced as Byrne just left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
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07-30-2018, 02:45 PM | #204 |
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ur dad left a bad taste in my mouth
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07-30-2018, 03:37 PM | #205 |
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Your dad has actually aged pretty well
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07-30-2018, 03:49 PM | #206 |
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Controversial opinion: Oceania is a good cohesive album but Byrne takes it from a 4/5 to a 2.5/5. He just had absolutely zero touch. Quasar is hard to enjoy because of his drumming.
We would’ve loved Oceania if Jimmy was on it. |
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07-30-2018, 03:50 PM | #207 |
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ZG is super ultra shite
would rather listen to Teargarden |
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07-30-2018, 04:24 PM | #208 |
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I would hope this is the prevailing thought. Bring Jimmy in and lower Billy's vocals in the mix and you have something pretty great actually.
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07-30-2018, 05:01 PM | #209 |
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Idk if we would have LOVED it, but maybe not write it off so hard
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07-30-2018, 05:03 PM | #210 |
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There's some parts in Oceania where you can definitely hear Zwan.
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