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Old 06-15-2020, 10:26 PM   #31
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In all fairness, he has put out a lot of incredible music in the last ten years...

...but he ruins all of it with that ridiculous vibrato.

 
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Old 06-15-2020, 10:39 PM   #32
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Only song I remember from the residencies is "99 Floors," and find that one boring.
Mama was good. There were a few others.

American Gothic is straight trash. Imo.

 
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Old 06-15-2020, 11:04 PM   #33
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We’re givin back the dreeeeeam

Wretched shit

 
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Old 06-15-2020, 11:20 PM   #34
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woah WOAH w-woah woah

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Old 06-15-2020, 11:25 PM   #35
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WE GONNA RIDE THAT RAINBOW MOTHAFUCKAAAAA

 
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Old 06-15-2020, 11:39 PM   #36
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I just can’t believe he wrote these stop start verses and that lack of melody in the chorus and thought “yeah this is good enough to release”

 
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:20 AM   #37
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I dont get whatyou guys have against rose march.
sure it´s billy multiple choir....... but the song is beautiful

the other 3 tracks are forgettable

 
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:53 AM   #38
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In all fairness, he has put out a lot of incredible music in the last ten years...

...but he ruins all of it with that ridiculous vibrato.
If he had sang these songs in his soft "Obscured" voice, or even his Adore voice, they would be 100% better and we'd have no issue at all.

 
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Old 06-16-2020, 07:20 AM   #39
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i enjoyed your dad when he came out
did you guys use a condom this time?

 
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Old 06-16-2020, 12:56 PM   #40
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no he said he wants all of me, i n c l u d i n g my rash(es)

 
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:17 PM   #41
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If he had sang these songs in his soft "Obscured" voice, or even his Adore voice, they would be 100% better and we'd have no issue at all.
Definitely.

Too bad he doesn’t like having people giving him advice.

 
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:38 PM   #42
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WE GONNA RIDE THAT RAINBOW MOTHAFUCKAAAAA
totally uncalled for

 
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Old 06-17-2020, 04:09 PM   #43
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if i hear any of these songs at a show in the future, i'll be disappointed

 
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:06 PM   #44
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Do you guys remember this one? I think it was only played once


 
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:36 PM   #45
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Do you guys remember this one? I think it was only played once

Better than As Rome Burns tbh

 
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:46 PM   #46
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Better than As Rome Burns tbh
I think it has potential, but it sounds a bit underdeveloped.

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Old 11-10-2021, 01:12 PM   #47
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still fucking terrible

 
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Old 11-10-2021, 01:17 PM   #48
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sunkist was alright

 
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Old 11-10-2021, 03:55 PM   #49
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Something broke in me the first and only time I heard what he'd done to "Rose March" in the studio. I'm not sure why that was the straw that broke the camel's back exactly, and there'd certainly been plenty of shit before then I hadn't liked, in terms of songs and band member behaviors and whatever, but that's the definitive before-and-after point for me in terms of how I felt about the Pumpkins in general.

 
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Old 11-10-2021, 04:22 PM   #50
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Something broke in me the first and only time I heard what he'd done to "Rose March" in the studio. I'm not sure why that was the straw that broke the camel's back exactly, and there'd certainly been plenty of shit before then I hadn't liked, in terms of songs and band member behaviors and whatever, but that's the definitive before-and-after point for me in terms of how I felt about the Pumpkins in general.
Yes, I can relate to that.

Still wondering, besides that horrible change of voice, after more than ten years of great music, all that came after that is mostly just... bland and forgettable?

The quality for example of his acoustic work during the Adore and Machina era, is so different from this American Gothic stuff. How come?

 
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Old 11-10-2021, 05:15 PM   #51
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I like Rose March.

 
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Old 11-10-2021, 05:32 PM   #52
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The studio version? That's fine and within the bounds of normal human cognition for sure! In no way a red flag that you're a dangerous pervert, friend, haha, all good, all good. Apropos of nothing, how close do you live to a school?

 
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Old 11-10-2021, 10:22 PM   #53
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The Rose March's production, arrangement and vocal performance are terrible, but what really ruined the song imho was the way he added the "can't you see me at all" lines. The early live versions didn't have that part at all. It turns a song that is relatively subtle and really quite beautiful into a pathetic, entitled cryfest. I'm pretty sure this was the only time the studio version of a song retroactively ruined my opinion of the early version.

 
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Old 11-11-2021, 05:25 AM   #54
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I'm probably the only one who likes Pox.

Sunkissed is nice too. But sung wrong.

 
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Old 11-12-2021, 07:36 PM   #55
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Ah, fake Jar of Flies. All I remember is “it’s a paaaaaaaaaaahx”

 
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Old 11-12-2021, 10:33 PM   #56
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can someone post an og Rose March so I can a/b and be pissed?

 
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Old 11-12-2021, 11:44 PM   #57
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Old 11-13-2021, 01:03 AM   #58
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if you are defending a zeitgeist era throwaway b sides collection you need to maybe listen to some other music and get back to me

 
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Old 11-13-2021, 03:55 PM   #59
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I don't think the songs themselves are terrible (except Pox) but it was so shocking. This was the first major vocal downgrade...I mean, vocal shift.

 
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Old 11-13-2021, 03:55 PM   #60
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I mean downgrade.

 
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