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Old 05-09-2014, 12:15 AM   #181
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How is that contradicting that I find it funny that he used that lame, unimaginative comparison as a compliment?
because i don't think it has anything to do with the fact that tommy seems to think bonham was his "mentor" because he doesn't know what that word means

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:18 AM   #182
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:20 AM   #183
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:20 AM   #184
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i mean seriously where the fuck do you get off, after years of bitching about an inexperienced but rather technically proficient teenager being dropped into a band with a noted egomaniac do you get to the point where "oh sweet tommy lee what an improvement"

like it completely invalidates years of your criticism of mike byrne's technical skill. jesus CHRIST, fuzzy...

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:24 AM   #185
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Is Mikey "rather technically proficient" because, again, I know absolutely zero about drumming but my drummer says he's pretty meh and the drummers on here are usually pretty critical of him.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:25 AM   #186
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For the record I hate both mike Byrne and tommy lee. I honestly could care less who is behind the kit because chances are I'll listen to the album once hate it and move on. I'm just glad mike is gone. Why? I'm a petty fuck.

Also whoever said Janet Weiss seems to be available had it right. But she'd be better off staying out of that picture.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:26 AM   #187
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I like Post-Punk
Pretty much I want drums to just be loud, simple, and repetitive.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:27 AM   #188
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Is Mikey "rather technically proficient" because, again, I know absolutely zero about drumming but my drummer says he's pretty meh and the drummers on here are usually pretty critical of him.
there are no drummers here i don't think...there's a lot of jimmy fanboys that couldn't handle it

guy is not the greatest in the world but he has chops.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:28 AM   #189
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Is Mikey "rather technically proficient" because, again, I know absolutely zero about drumming but my drummer says he's pretty meh and the drummers on here are usually pretty critical of him.
Your drummer could suck for all I know, but did you show your drummer Mike's own work with his own band? He's more into math rock. I thought he was really unsuited for SP, probably because Billy wanted him to play like JC, but he's more comfortable playing his own style.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:28 AM   #190
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Also whoever said Janet Weiss seems to be available had it right. But she'd be better off staying out of that picture.
lol seriously who else would it be

janet would much rather toil in obscurity with quasi instead of joining up with SP. she barely let herself get on camera when she did an obligatory appearance on portlandia

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:29 AM   #191
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I thought he was really unsuited for SP, probably because Billy wanted him to play like JC, but he's more comfortable playing his own style.
this is exactly what i thought when i heard ocieania

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:30 AM   #192
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because i don't think it has anything to do with the fact that tommy seems to think bonham was his "mentor" because he doesn't know what that word means
That entire answer and his complete lack of understanding was just too funny.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:31 AM   #193
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all-time drumming mentors

i think he means idols, i mean seriously the guy is an uplifted baboon

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:31 AM   #194
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Maybe Im thinking of the O-board.

Honestly, I felt Oceania's drums were fine, and if you like at ZG you see the greatest drumming ever won't save bad songs.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:35 AM   #195
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they were fine, but it did sound like someone doing a jimmy chamberlin impression. or was told to.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:35 AM   #196
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but we had fuzzyroses et al talking about how completely terrible and off beat he was and shit

it was so ridiculous at the time and even more ludicrous that they're heralding tommy lee as "real talent"

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:36 AM   #197
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the greatest drumming ever won't save bad songs.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:37 AM   #198
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Mike needs to find his own voice. Billy did him a favour.

To be honest, all the professional musicians I know that have listened to Oceania say the same thing to me, "that drummer is amazing". They aren't tainted by wanting to have steamy sex with Jimmy though.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:38 AM   #199
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doomsday clock is a pretty great example of that, tbh

the drum intro is like OMGZZZ and the song is like oh my god.

 
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That entire answer and his complete lack of understanding was just too funny.
He has a big dick, he doesn't need to be smart.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:40 AM   #201
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He's like a caveman.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:41 AM   #202
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Mike had chops, and does great with that shitty bearcubbin music. He didn't have sp level chops though. And yeah, I have my head stuck up Jimmy's ass. But he's a god so whatevs let me relish.

Having mike out softens the blow of tommy being on board. But whoever thinks he's going to be an improvement is an idiot. He's going to fit into this band as well as mike did and that's not a good thing. I guess I'm numb to it all at this point.

And seriously if he's just hiring a drummer to do 9 tracks on the album, why not just have jimmy do them and then he'd be done with it/not touring. JC had no problem doing that with Tyson Meade.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:43 AM   #203
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and if you like at ZG you see the greatest drumming ever won't save bad songs.
No, but think how much worse it would be without JC's drumming. Really, one of the few redeeming qualities of that album is Jimmy's drumming. Billy just fucked up the production and the direction he took the album in.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:45 AM   #204
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I like Tommy Lee for this project actually. Not because he is some fantastical drummer, I don't give a fuck about that. I like that billy is out of his comfort zone, and shaking things up a bit. Tommy Lee seems odd and it is easy to judge that he doesn't fit but in a creative environment sometimes that is what you need.

I like that billy is bringing in randoms and I hope Billy continues this.

 
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:46 AM   #205
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The word "contemporary," as used in the music and arts, has a very specific meaning. That's generally why movements/styles are grouped together and music is allotted into distinct decades.

By the way, your dictionary definitions really don't contradict what I'm saying here.

Here's some more for you, since you insist

con·tem·po·rar·y (kən-tĕm′pə-rĕr′ē)
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1. Belonging to the same period of time: a fact documented by two contemporary sources.
2. Of about the same age.
3. Current; modern: contemporary trends in design.
1. One of the same time or age: Shelley and Keats were contemporaries.
2. A person of the present age.
It absolutely contradicts what you're saying. Tommy Lee was a drummer at the same time John Bonham was (the late 1970's). Therefore, Tommy Lee and John Bonham were contemporaries. They existed at the same time in the same field (Drumming). How can you argue that? You were saying that Motley Crue wasn't a contemporary of Led Zep... in that, you are correct. But Tommy Lee was a contemporary of John Bonham. Mike Byrne is a contemporary of Jimmy Chamberlain.

 
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Mike had chops, and does great with that shitty bearcubbin music. He didn't have sp level chops though. And yeah, I have my head stuck up Jimmy's ass. But he's a god so whatevs let me relish.

Having mike out softens the blow of tommy being on board. But whoever thinks he's going to be an improvement is an idiot. He's going to fit into this band as well as mike did and that's not a good thing. I guess I'm numb to it all at this point.

And seriously if he's just hiring a drummer to do 9 tracks on the album, why not just have jimmy do them and then he'd be done with it/not touring. JC had no problem doing that with Tyson Meade.
Because Jimmy is not the sound he wanted. He wants that bash bash sound. It has been very clear. You don't have to paint with one colour, holy fuck!

 
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Your drummer could suck for all I know, but did you show your drummer Mike's own work with his own band? He's more into math rock. I thought he was really unsuited for SP, probably because Billy wanted him to play like JC, but he's more comfortable playing his own style.
No, I haven't even listened to that shit.

And my drummer could very well suck, again I don't know or care about drums really.
I like drums to be really loud and simple. Like Dave Grohl.

 
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because i don't think it has anything to do with the fact that tommy seems to think bonham was his "mentor" because he doesn't know what that word means
That's true... I don't think he knows (or knew at the time of that interview) what that word means.

 
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No, I haven't even listened to that shit.

And my drummer could very well suck, again I don't know or care about drums really.
I like drums to be really loud and simple. Like Dave Grohl.
Barf. I hate grohl.

 
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It absolutely contradicts what you're saying. Tommy Lee was a drummer at the same time John Bonham was (the late 1970's). Therefore, Tommy Lee and John Bonham were contemporaries. They existed at the same time in the same field (Drumming). How can you argue that? You were saying that Motley Crue wasn't a contemporary of Led Zep... in that, you are correct. But Tommy Lee was a contemporary of John Bonham. Mike Byrne is a contemporary of Jimmy Chamberlain.
oh for fuck's sake, kreatorkind, no it doesn't. I see you skipped over highlighting "of the same age," "current," "of the present."

You don't understand what being a contemporary of someone means.

Take for example the Shelley/Keats example that was used. Shelley and Keats knew each other, they ran in the same circles. They lived and produced work during the exact same time period. They were both Romantic poets.

 
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