Shit, man... The Future Embrace is actual fire - Page 4

Mals Marola · 03-17-2019, 04:23 PM

look fellas, i'll be honest, it's my favorite album of all time

Mals Marola · 03-17-2019, 04:24 PM

redbreegull · 03-17-2019, 04:55 PM

Pretty Pretty Star is awful and I am not open to any opinion which deviates from this conclusion. I have spoken.

fuzzyroes · 05:40 PM

Mina Loy and Camera Eye are pretty cool, the album starts off with potential, but it's overly bloated and uninteresting. A problem that's plagued Corgan in recent years.

ilikeplanets · 03-17-2019, 05:16 PM

this one goes in the "no" pile for me, too.

Mals Marola · 03-17-2019, 05:20 PM

shit, i would have thought you'd love it, given your previous opinions on A Door!

Forgotten Child · 03-17-2019, 05:33 PM

We need a poll about PPS

LoveIsSuicide42 · 03-17-2019, 05:34 PM

I listened to this album, front to back, for the first time thanks to this thread. It's a little better than I remembered, but something about it just feels so exhausting. I guess it's probably the lazy, over simplistic drums. I get why I would always turn it off about a third of the way through in the past.

As others have said, The Camera Eye is a pretty great tune. I like Mina Loy and Now and Then as well. Just about every song has an element or two that I really enjoy, in fact, but I struggle to think of what many of the songs even sound like. There's this sort of elusive, drifting quality to the songwriting that makes it hard to connect with.

That being said, the tour for this looked pretty awesome. Wish I could have seen a show.

incubator · 03-17-2019, 06:03 PM

I like the direction but the song writing is kinda weird. It’s got some nice textures and guitar playing

Most of the songs do this structure thing of having no real chorus but a verse that goes up 2 or 3 times before dropping right, right down..repeat..repeat..maybe an outro..end

DIA is a good example. It rises and rises and rises and falls to nowhere over and over again.
verseVERSEV E R S E..can i face tomorrow...with you..? Repeat. So it gets old fast

Forgotten Child · 03-17-2019, 06:14 PM

Can we talk about the Bit songs, specially bit 5? What a tune!

redbreegull · 03-17-2019, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incubator

I like the direction but the song writing is kinda weird. It’s got some nice textures and guitar playing

Most of the songs do this structure thing of having no real chorus but a verse that goes up 2 or 3 times before dropping right, right down..repeat..repeat..maybe an outro..end

DIA is a good example. It rises and rises and rises and falls to nowhere over and over again.
verseVERSEV E R S E..can i face tomorrow...with you..? Repeat. So it gets old fast

what? DIA has a great chorus hook. mirror mirror reflect this scream

FoolofaTook · 03-17-2019, 07:21 PM

Woody · 03-17-2019, 07:38 PM

The Future Embrace is actual very bad. I want you to know this.

MyKeyZ · 03-17-2019, 07:50 PM

I love Adore, but The Future Embrace is shite. Doesn't hold a candle to Adore. The drum production on TFE sucks. It's like he had 3 drum sound presets on his drum machine.

Forgotten Child · 03-17-2019, 08:08 PM

Yes, let's compare Adore to TFE, cause, you know, electronic music is all the same.

redbreegull · 03-17-2019, 09:24 PM

TFE is far more electronic than Adore

Run To Me · 03-17-2019, 10:42 PM

So not a single one of the ppl expressing vehement/unwavering hate for Pretty Pretty Star itt are able to identify a single, specific problem with the song

After multiple ppl proclaim various aspects of the song they find pleasing?

Looks to me like Pretty Pretty Star just kicked all your asses, dummies

LoveIsSuicide42 · 03-17-2019, 10:45 PM

I listened again and A100 and DIA stuck out more this time. Pretty Pretty Star is fine. I really dislike the cover of To Love Somebody.

This is better than the Zwan album and Teargarden for sure. Hard to say it's much better than Zeitgeist, or even MtaE

FoolofaTook · 03-17-2019, 10:48 PM

yeah solid turds are better than runny poos

thank you

Run To Me · 03-17-2019, 11:02 PM

Can’t imagine ranking tfe over Zwan

Unless we’re talking strictly mstos, in which case, i’d pls refer the reader back to the turd/poo analogy, supra

LoveIsSuicide42 · 03-18-2019, 12:48 AM

I was just talking about mstos. I loved Zwan as a live act.

D. · 03-18-2019, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

Can we talk about the Bit songs, specially bit 5? What a tune!

How many Bits were there? Just the one? I can't remember - was it a pre-recorded thing that he played live only? My memory fails me now that I am an oldster.

Slurpee · 03-18-2019, 02:52 AM

If you don’t like this album, and I’m not saying you have to, then there is no hope for liking Bill’s future output. TFE is the model of what a good album looks like from him now: strange, detailed, focused on his songwriting strengths.

redbreegull · 03-18-2019, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Can’t imagine ranking tfe over Zwan

Unless we’re talking strictly mstos, in which case, i’d pls refer the reader back to the turd/poo analogy, supra

it fucking sucks bro

Forgotten Child · 03-18-2019, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.

How many Bits were there? Just the one? I can't remember - was it a pre-recorded thing that he played live only? My memory fails me now that I am an oldster.

I think we had 4 bits. Bit 2, bit 4, bit 5 and bit 7. Not sure tho.

Forgotten Child · 03-18-2019, 06:54 AM

Bit 4 (the intro before A100): https://youtu.be/6AxysJ2rK_E

Bit 5: https://youtu.be/l9XIod8FshU

incubator · 03-18-2019, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

I think we had 4 bits. Bit 2, bit 4, bit 5 and bit 7. Not sure tho.

1, 3 and 6 - The best bits - are sitting in a can, at home

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fuzzyroes Immortal Posts: 20,983	Mina Loy and Camera Eye are pretty cool, the album starts off with potential, but it's overly bloated and uninteresting. A problem that's plagued Corgan in recent years. Last edited by fuzzyroes : 03-17-2019 at 05:40 PM.

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03-17-2019, 04:23 PM	#94
Mals Marola Minion of Satan Location: https://twitter.com/fuzzyroes Posts: 9,807	look fellas, i'll be honest, it's my favorite album of all time

03-17-2019, 04:24 PM	#95
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03-17-2019, 04:55 PM	#96
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: WILD BOY Posts: 31,007	Pretty Pretty Star is awful and I am not open to any opinion which deviates from this conclusion. I have spoken.

03-17-2019, 05:16 PM	#98
ilikeplanets Socialphobic Location: Ignore List Posts: 13,678	this one goes in the "no" pile for me, too.

03-17-2019, 05:20 PM	#99
Mals Marola Minion of Satan Location: https://twitter.com/fuzzyroes Posts: 9,807	shit, i would have thought you'd love it, given your previous opinions on A Door!

03-17-2019, 05:33 PM	#100
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 3,010	We need a poll about PPS

03-17-2019, 05:34 PM	#101
LoveIsSuicide42 Pledge Posts: 94	I listened to this album, front to back, for the first time thanks to this thread. It's a little better than I remembered, but something about it just feels so exhausting. I guess it's probably the lazy, over simplistic drums. I get why I would always turn it off about a third of the way through in the past. As others have said, The Camera Eye is a pretty great tune. I like Mina Loy and Now and Then as well. Just about every song has an element or two that I really enjoy, in fact, but I struggle to think of what many of the songs even sound like. There's this sort of elusive, drifting quality to the songwriting that makes it hard to connect with. That being said, the tour for this looked pretty awesome. Wish I could have seen a show.

03-17-2019, 06:03 PM	#102
incubator Demi-God Posts: 363	I like the direction but the song writing is kinda weird. It’s got some nice textures and guitar playing Most of the songs do this structure thing of having no real chorus but a verse that goes up 2 or 3 times before dropping right, right down..repeat..repeat..maybe an outro..end DIA is a good example. It rises and rises and rises and falls to nowhere over and over again. verseVERSEV E R S E..can i face tomorrow...with you..? Repeat. So it gets old fast

03-17-2019, 06:14 PM	#103
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 3,010	Can we talk about the Bit songs, specially bit 5? What a tune!

03-17-2019, 07:21 PM	#105
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: ...: Posts: 30,849

03-17-2019, 07:38 PM	#106
Woody Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,598	The Future Embrace is actual very bad. I want you to know this.

03-17-2019, 07:50 PM	#107
MyKeyZ Ownz Location: Freak U.S.A. Posts: 833	I love Adore, but The Future Embrace is shite. Doesn't hold a candle to Adore. The drum production on TFE sucks. It's like he had 3 drum sound presets on his drum machine.

03-17-2019, 08:08 PM	#108
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 3,010	Yes, let's compare Adore to TFE, cause, you know, electronic music is all the same.

03-17-2019, 09:24 PM	#109
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: WILD BOY Posts: 31,007	TFE is far more electronic than Adore

03-17-2019, 10:42 PM	#110
Run To Me Apocalyptic Poster Location: Where the frog spoils the leaf Posts: 4,874	So not a single one of the ppl expressing vehement/unwavering hate for Pretty Pretty Star itt are able to identify a single, specific problem with the song After multiple ppl proclaim various aspects of the song they find pleasing? Looks to me like Pretty Pretty Star just kicked all your asses, dummies

03-17-2019, 10:45 PM	#111
LoveIsSuicide42 Pledge Posts: 94	I listened again and A100 and DIA stuck out more this time. Pretty Pretty Star is fine. I really dislike the cover of To Love Somebody. This is better than the Zwan album and Teargarden for sure. Hard to say it's much better than Zeitgeist, or even MtaE

03-17-2019, 10:48 PM	#112
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: ...: Posts: 30,849	yeah solid turds are better than runny poos thank you

03-17-2019, 11:02 PM	#113
Run To Me Apocalyptic Poster Location: Where the frog spoils the leaf Posts: 4,874	Can’t imagine ranking tfe over Zwan Unless we’re talking strictly mstos, in which case, i’d pls refer the reader back to the turd/poo analogy, supra

03-18-2019, 12:48 AM	#114
LoveIsSuicide42 Pledge Posts: 94	I was just talking about mstos. I loved Zwan as a live act.

03-18-2019, 02:52 AM	#116
Slurpee Minion of Satan Location: breakfast Posts: 6,097	If you don’t like this album, and I’m not saying you have to, then there is no hope for liking Bill’s future output. TFE is the model of what a good album looks like from him now: strange, detailed, focused on his songwriting strengths.

03-18-2019, 06:54 AM	#119
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 3,010	Bit 4 (the intro before A100): https://youtu.be/6AxysJ2rK_E Bit 5: https://youtu.be/l9XIod8FshU