Shit, man... The Future Embrace is actual fire - Page 2

Mals Marola · 03-14-2019, 06:30 PM

that's because Big Boy Bill saw us unfit to stream the album

as he did with Mary Star, Zeitgeist, and whatever other albums people loathed upon release but pretend to like now!

Mals Marola · 03-14-2019, 06:31 PM

(sheathe your swords, gents. i'm kidding about that last part)

houseofglass11 · 03-14-2019, 06:38 PM

what is going on here

LaBelle · 03-14-2019, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

that's because Big Boy Bill saw us unfit to stream the album

as he did with Mary Star, Zeitgeist, and whatever other albums people loathed upon release but pretend to like now!

Exactly, even Billy wants to sweep those under the rug.

LaBelle · 03-14-2019, 06:46 PM

If you're not on streaming, then you're dead

myosis · 03-14-2019, 07:00 PM

careful what you wish for

Woody · 03-14-2019, 07:34 PM

Is it avant garde when the guitars and synth sounds are intricately produced, but the drumbeat sounds like a lo-fi bedroom demo? And you have hooks that are sang off-key and chopped up with like... the opposite of hooks, which kill the momentum of the song and the listener’s patience? Like... if you’re gonna launch yourself as a solo artist with an album of 3minute pop songs, surely the ideas is to create songs people can remember? Why is the production and songwriting constantly getting in it’s own way? I just... don’t get this album, and I’m sorry it hurt Bill so much, but everything that went wrong afterwards started here.

reprise85 · 03-14-2019, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

"TheCameraEye" might be my favorite song Billy has written since SP1 ended. That sounded like something off a Smashing Pumpkins from an alternate future where Adore was a massive success.

totally agree. love that song

LaBelle · 03-14-2019, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by myosis

careful what you wish for

If Billy truly walked the walk he'd get rid of all the classic albums and leave only the trash on Spotify.

LaBelle · 03-14-2019, 10:36 PM

Haven't heard it in forever, but I remember Tilt being really good.

Big Truck05 · 03-14-2019, 11:15 PM

I stand by my "Buzzed" post.

redbreegull · 03-14-2019, 11:17 PM

TFE is a pretty cool album with some really good and some pretty bad songs, but overall it's interesting and worthwhile

cork_soaker · 03-14-2019, 11:24 PM

occasionally interesting and relatively recent TFE thread

in which i stalk and harass brian leisgang(?) online and demand answers, resulting in his eventual acquiescence

Mals Marola · 03-14-2019, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

TFE is a pretty cool album with some really good and some pretty bad songs, but overall it's interesting and worthwhile

this is the take i'll be endorsing for the 2020 election

Woody · 03-15-2019, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

TFE is a pretty cool album with some really good and some pretty bad songs, but overall it's interesting and worthwhile

FAKENEWS

Send post-2003 Billy to Mexico and build the wall.

FoolofaTook · 03-15-2019, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

I played it to my cousin who has a masters in music from some fancy school in vienna.

he said (in thick euro accent) "jonny this is very bad music." I was pretty butthurt. lol tfe sucks.

.

Funbags · 03-15-2019, 08:49 AM

I absolutely love TFE. The short film is amazing too.

Mals Marola · 03-15-2019, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

.

does your cousin post on netphoria?

Mals Marola · 03-15-2019, 09:59 AM

also i can imagine few things douchier than using your masters in music to "objectively" determine that a Billy Corgan album is bad

and yet, i can't deny it is also hilarious

Forgotten Child · 03-15-2019, 10:06 AM

I think I only dislike All Things Change and specially I'm ready. I live Pretty Pretty Star and Camera Eye, which is very innovative and out of the box, and I wish Billy tried more of that.

I would say TFE was the last time Billy took any risks. And I respect him for trying new things more than for middle of the road albums.

FoolofaTook · 03-15-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mals Marola

does your cousin post on netphoria?

yes.

his name is harold.

Big Truck05 · 03-15-2019, 11:59 AM

Does no one like Now (And Then)? Common.

FoolofaTook · 03-15-2019, 12:12 PM

yeah i do. i also kinda liked the camera eye and to love somebody.

the rest can eat megalothon dong, tho, as i believe ive already noted.

cork_soaker · 03-15-2019, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Truck05

Does no one like Now (And Then)? Common.

i like the bit where it veers into the darkness for that mournful solo

cork_soaker · 03-15-2019, 12:28 PM

as a whole, the album has interesting textures and a (to me) pleasingly stark aesthetic; unfortunately the songs are weak and it's just dead on arrival

cork_soaker · 03-15-2019, 12:30 PM

Woody · 03-15-2019, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Truck05

Does no one like Now (And Then)? Common.

Sadmachines and some confused netphorians, so nope, no one.

fluxequalsrad · 03-15-2019, 02:31 PM

Not exactly on topic, but Stephen Malkmus released his solo "drum machine/foray into electronics" album today and it absolutely spanks TFE. Another L for BiLLy.

FoolofaTook · 03-15-2019, 02:54 PM

FoolofaTook · 03-15-2019, 02:55 PM

you guys like boris?

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03-14-2019, 06:30 PM	#31
Mals Marola Minion of Satan Location: https://twitter.com/fuzzyroes Posts: 9,766	that's because Big Boy Bill saw us unfit to stream the album as he did with Mary Star, Zeitgeist, and whatever other albums people loathed upon release but pretend to like now!

03-14-2019, 06:31 PM	#32
Mals Marola Minion of Satan Location: https://twitter.com/fuzzyroes Posts: 9,766	(sheathe your swords, gents. i'm kidding about that last part)

03-14-2019, 06:38 PM	#33
houseofglass11 Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,754	what is going on here

03-14-2019, 06:46 PM	#35
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 10,272	If you're not on streaming, then you're dead

03-14-2019, 07:00 PM	#36
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,110	careful what you wish for

03-14-2019, 07:34 PM	#37
Woody Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,596	Is it avant garde when the guitars and synth sounds are intricately produced, but the drumbeat sounds like a lo-fi bedroom demo? And you have hooks that are sang off-key and chopped up with like... the opposite of hooks, which kill the momentum of the song and the listener’s patience? Like... if you’re gonna launch yourself as a solo artist with an album of 3minute pop songs, surely the ideas is to create songs people can remember? Why is the production and songwriting constantly getting in it’s own way? I just... don’t get this album, and I’m sorry it hurt Bill so much, but everything that went wrong afterwards started here.

03-14-2019, 10:36 PM	#40
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 10,272	Haven't heard it in forever, but I remember Tilt being really good.

03-14-2019, 11:15 PM	#41
Big Truck05 Demi-God Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 375	I stand by my "Buzzed" post.

03-14-2019, 11:17 PM	#42
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: WILD BOY Posts: 31,005	TFE is a pretty cool album with some really good and some pretty bad songs, but overall it's interesting and worthwhile

03-14-2019, 11:24 PM	#43
cork_soaker full of longing Posts: 10,772	occasionally interesting and relatively recent TFE thread in which i stalk and harass brian leisgang(?) online and demand answers, resulting in his eventual acquiescence

03-15-2019, 08:49 AM	#47
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,610	I absolutely love TFE. The short film is amazing too.

03-15-2019, 09:59 AM	#49
Mals Marola Minion of Satan Location: https://twitter.com/fuzzyroes Posts: 9,766	also i can imagine few things douchier than using your masters in music to "objectively" determine that a Billy Corgan album is bad and yet, i can't deny it is also hilarious

03-15-2019, 10:06 AM	#50
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 3,002	I think I only dislike All Things Change and specially I'm ready. I live Pretty Pretty Star and Camera Eye, which is very innovative and out of the box, and I wish Billy tried more of that. I would say TFE was the last time Billy took any risks. And I respect him for trying new things more than for middle of the road albums.

03-15-2019, 11:59 AM	#52
Big Truck05 Demi-God Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 375	Does no one like Now (And Then)? Common.

03-15-2019, 12:12 PM	#53
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: a final unison band stinger Posts: 30,753	yeah i do. i also kinda liked the camera eye and to love somebody. the rest can eat megalothon dong, tho, as i believe ive already noted.

03-15-2019, 12:28 PM	#55
cork_soaker full of longing Posts: 10,772	as a whole, the album has interesting textures and a (to me) pleasingly stark aesthetic; unfortunately the songs are weak and it's just dead on arrival

03-15-2019, 02:31 PM	#58
fluxequalsrad Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 4,243	Not exactly on topic, but Stephen Malkmus released his solo "drum machine/foray into electronics" album today and it absolutely spanks TFE. Another L for BiLLy.

03-15-2019, 02:54 PM	#59
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: a final unison band stinger Posts: 30,753	ok

03-15-2019, 02:55 PM	#60
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: a final unison band stinger Posts: 30,753	you guys like boris?