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01-23-2008, 02:03 AM | #31 | |
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HERE IS HIS MYSPACE: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=17334312 LET S OPEN A CAN OF WHOOP ASS |
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01-23-2008, 02:27 AM | #32 | |
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01-23-2008, 02:28 AM | #33 |
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01-23-2008, 02:47 AM | #34 |
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01-23-2008, 03:00 AM | #35 |
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But the MOST overrated? It's mildly overrated at best, it got like 59% at metacritic.
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01-23-2008, 03:22 AM | #36 |
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01-23-2008, 03:25 AM | #37 |
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1 billy 1 cup?
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01-23-2008, 03:27 AM | #38 |
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01-23-2008, 03:28 AM | #39 |
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have you seen the kermit reaction?
yeah. it would be a lot like that |
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01-23-2008, 04:09 AM | #40 |
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01-23-2008, 02:49 PM | #41 |
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Well, Rolling Stone, Spin, New York Times, Village Voice, Filter - it was well liked in certain quarters.
Actually, as I recall, take a look at the evolution of reactions to Zeitgeist. The first reviews I remember reading were, "Hmm, it's good. Nothing special, not ground-breaking, but good." Even Corgan detrators liked "Tarantula" in the press. But what happened here was a good case of mass-media personae overshadowing the work. Subsequent reviews were focused on Corgan's personality, and the fact that this wasn't a reunited band. Very little was focused on music: and say what you want about the music, but it truly is a collaborative album (very few of the negative reviews mention the drumming, an element which floored me). That so many of these negative reviews should not even take notice of Jimmy C. was a little troubling. It's like watching "There Will Be Blood" and not discussing Daniel Day-Lewis. Not to harp on intellectual matters, but the point of "Zeitgeist" is tied in with the influence of media/videoscopy/public signifiers on the general populace. Corgan should be credited, in the titling of his record, with its reception, whether its content is good or bad. Two friends of mine, who were never Pumpkins fans (both are over 25), thought it was the album of the year. I wasn't willing to give it so much credit, but maybe there's something to the album. Don't get me wrong. "American Gothic" is the shittiest thing Corgan's put out in his career. |
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01-23-2008, 03:01 PM | #42 |
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congratulations, you've joined the legions of nickelback and green day (which is pretty much the level SP are at right now) fans who view ''indie snobs'' in the exact same light.
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01-23-2008, 03:04 PM | #43 |
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01-23-2008, 03:04 PM | #44 |
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the drumming is ridiculously cartoonish on zeitgeist
jesus, i love the excuses people are making in this thread for why zeitgeist tanked because it was an ironic statement no one got... because it was a calculated attempt to make the next forthcoming album sound good... becuase billy's personae overshadowed the music... Do you think if any of those were true that the quality of music would override those false pretenses? It doesn't because Zeitgeist is insanely mediocre and utterly forgettable. |
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01-23-2008, 03:23 PM | #45 | |
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01-23-2008, 03:26 PM | #46 |
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01-23-2008, 04:22 PM | #47 |
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it's overrated because some people like it?
sucks.... |
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01-23-2008, 04:33 PM | #48 |
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i don't understand how this was overrated.
I can see SBS as one, but common.....and I LOVE WIlco. |
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01-23-2008, 08:02 PM | #49 | |
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01-23-2008, 08:03 PM | #50 |
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no, "countless bands" haven't done that, especially not after the same two memeber were a part of another "band" and a "solo record" in between that were both commercial and critical failures. if you're really too blind to see that the only reason that the band "reunited" is so that corgan could once again use the name and hope the unsuspecting public didn't realize there was no difference between this band and the two previous incarnations post-pumpkins, then i feel truly sorry for you.
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01-23-2008, 08:04 PM | #51 |
Minion of Satan
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what difference does it make what name he uses? why do you care so much? it's just a fucking name, it's not sacred. it's a stupid name, at that.
crowded house, inxs, duran duran, depeche mode, the doors, alice in chains, the pretenders, journey. those are some off the top of my head that reunited without original members. I'm sure there are many others, hence the word "countless" Last edited by skipgo : 01-23-2008 at 08:14 PM. |
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01-23-2008, 08:06 PM | #52 |
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yeah. i hate to agree with this, but i sort of have to. I don't think it was horrible, I like some of the songs, but it is indeed mediocre. I'm sure if I weren't such a fan of the band, I wouldn't listened to it as much as I have. I don't think I've played it at all since I saw them in november.
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01-23-2008, 08:06 PM | #53 |
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01-23-2008, 08:14 PM | #54 |
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Heh. Exactly.
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01-23-2008, 08:15 PM | #55 |
Minion of Satan
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hey, some of my best friends are indie snobs, unfortunately. I'd say you have no idea how I view them.
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01-23-2008, 08:17 PM | #56 |
Minion of Satan
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01-23-2008, 08:20 PM | #57 |
Immortal
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you pathetic bitch
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01-23-2008, 08:24 PM | #58 |
Minion of Satan
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whatever pal.
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01-23-2008, 08:31 PM | #59 | |
Ownz
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do fans of other bands get all up in arms about old members? like the cure. are they all pissed that smith keeps putting out records with different members? or morbid angel? is this really that upsetting? |
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01-23-2008, 08:32 PM | #60 |
Minion of Satan
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apparently it's one of the 7 deadly sins.
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