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Old 02-11-2017, 10:02 PM   #1
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Such a lovely tune

The whole vibe and sense of nostalgia it has is amazing. Love the allusion to Ruby at the end, tying it in thematically with the rest of the album.

The live version we got on the TAFH reissue is probably the best version. Something about that recording is sublime...going from hearing the shitty AUD source with people yelling over it to the nice clean soundboard....it's like a cozy parka in a blizzard.

 
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Old 02-11-2017, 10:18 PM   #2
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This is my favorite SP song

Could have been a proper A/B B-side to 1979

 
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Old 02-11-2017, 10:28 PM   #3
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One of the purest examples of Billy's songwriting at its peak. Poetic, strange, compelling, beautiful.

 
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:32 PM   #4
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I love Stumbleine, and I think this guy did a very nice write up of the song.

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Stumbleine is a demure, rural lullaby, its childlike narrative of horse stables and sea voyages punctuated only by Corgan's voice and a willowy steel acoustic. It's through that quiet simplicity that the track brings Mellon Collie's latent, turn-of-the-century storybook tableaux to the surface, better capturing the albums esoteric fairytale mythology than any of the blustery epics beside it.
http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/a...pkins-songs/P3

 
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:38 PM   #5
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:36 AM   #6
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Killer song. One of those sleeper ones on MCIS that I didn't immediately latch onto, but now see as one of the strongest tracks on disc 2.

Loved the versions of it that he was doing at the In Plainsong shows last year.

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:52 AM   #7
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Its not amazing

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 02:09 AM   #8
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Stumbeline is sweet. twilight to starlight is my fav sp and stumbeline is essential.

the full band live ones during the charity adore tour were, for lack of a better word, senescent.

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 02:12 AM   #9
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"Nobody nowhere understands anything about me"

Aw shucks! I love that gloomy mcis mood.

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:36 AM   #10
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I used to put this on repeat and fall asleep to it when I was 16, on the weekends when I came home drunk and stoned off my face and had to get up to work at the supermarket the next morning.

I felt so shitty going to sleep. Those were the worst nights. It was lifesaving to feel like there was one person in the world who knew what it felt like to need so much from a song.

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:08 AM   #11
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...love this performance >>>



 
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:56 AM   #12
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Killer song. One of those sleeper ones on MCIS that I didn't immediately latch onto, but now see as one of the strongest tracks on disc 2.

Loved the versions of it that he was doing at the In Plainsong shows last year.
My thoughts exactly! Billy opened up the show with "Cardinal Rule," but "Stumbleine" was second. The crowd went absolutely nuts, and you could tell Billy was even surprised by the amount of applause a "deep" track like that received.

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:29 AM   #13
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Old 02-12-2017, 12:11 PM   #14
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Stumbleine is a demure, rural lullaby, its childlike narrative of horse stables and sea voyages punctuated only by Corgan's voice and a willowy steel acoustic. It's through that quiet simplicity that the track brings Mellon Collie's latent, turn-of-the-century storybook tableaux to the surface, better capturing the albums esoteric fairytale mythology than any of the blustery epics beside it.
this is actually one of the best captures of the vision and aesthetic of MCIS as an album I have ever read

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:17 PM   #15
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Probably best encapsulates everything about 90's Billy that I miss these days. It's vulnerable, longing, wistful, sentimental, nostalgic, and paints such a great picture.

You could re-light a fire under the guy's ass, and I'd still give him enough credit to be able to churn out some great rockers these days if he were hitting on all cylinders, but I don't think he could ever write anything like Stumbleine again if he tried.

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:32 PM   #16
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I really liked Stumbeline when I was a teenager, spoke to me (nobody nowhere understands..."). Not so much now

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 02:47 PM   #17
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i prefer classic version like double door

 
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Probably a dumb question but did anyone else pick up the gynecological reference in "sally's in the stirrups claiming her destiny"?

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 06:57 PM   #19
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Woah, not until just now!! Killer

Classic house of mirrors lyric from bill

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:05 PM   #20
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Honestly I always interpreted it gynecologically until literally yesterday when I read that article excerpt about horse stables

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:08 PM   #21
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:19 PM   #22
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I stole money to buy this vhs bootleg


 
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:20 PM   #23
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not much rhymes with stumbleine except for super queen tbch

 
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Old 02-12-2017, 08:44 PM   #24
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One of his best songs for sure. It conveys the sense of isolation that kids sometimes feel so well, full of longing for things that could be, but no idea how they could ever go from here to there. They have their whole lives ahead of them, but the future is too far down the road; and for the moment they feel powerless, and wistful, and just really lonely.

 
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Old 02-13-2017, 02:22 PM   #26
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WTF??? ???

https://youtu.be/fu5SWcSdyKE?t=3m51s

 
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:39 PM   #28
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hey marsgum where can i make a gif like that?

 
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hey marsgum where can i make a gif like that?
...can't you see the address in the GIF?...

 
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Probably a dumb question but did anyone else pick up the gynecological reference in "sally's in the stirrups claiming her destiny"?
gynecologically

 
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