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Old 01-19-2017, 05:56 AM   #121
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The problem with stereotypes though, is that by stereotyping a group of people, you are stripping those people of their individuality in favor of broad generalizations that reinforce your own position and the underlying message usually is "I am better than those people"

It also leads to people clinging to arguments such as "but not all people..." from their groups while going "all the people..." from other groups of people.

That's why "not all white people are racist", but "all black people entering a vehicle are stealing".

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Old 01-19-2017, 07:26 AM   #122
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that's fine and dandy, but there's nothing offensive when traditional gender roles just so happen to be taking place either.
There actually is. And because this is a video game, this specific event did not need to be written like that. It isn't someone's life. It does not need to be this way.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:36 AM   #123
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:47 AM   #124
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you're always eating popcorn.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 07:51 AM   #125
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There actually is. And because this is a video game, this specific event did not need to be written like that. It isn't someone's life. It does not need to be this way.
There actually is something wrong with traditional gender roles? Only a fucking idiot would waste time being offended by a Mario brothers game.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 08:14 AM   #126
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You guys display a great sense of confidence in your own masculinity when you try to argue that women being perenially portrayed as victims is the "traditional gender role"

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:03 AM   #127
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Brodudes: Relax, it's just a video game! Stop getting so offended by trivial things and stop reading politics into everything!

Also brodudes: MAKING THE GHOSTBUSTERS FEEEEMALES IS LITERALLY SHITTING ON MY CHILDHOOD AND IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOLLYWOOD'S AGENDA TO PUSH "EMPOWERED INDEPENDENT WOMEN WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN" DOWN OUR THROATS ALSO IT'S ABOUT ETHICS IN VIDEO GAME JOURNALISM

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 09:05 AM   #128
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Yet the white knight rescuing the fair maiden are traditional archetypes in western culture. You can disagree with it, but they are the traditional gender roles in that scenario. Do we need to change those roles? Okay, I'm sure we need to update them for the modern world, but let's remember that it's a cartoon video game. He's eating mushrooms and growing taller and jumping on turtles and collecting shiny coins on his way to attack an even bigger turtle. It's more of an endorsement of psychedelics for children than it is a reinforcement of traditional gender roles.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:06 AM   #129
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Yet the white knight rescuing the fair maiden are traditional archetypes in western culture. You can disagree with it, but they are the traditional gender roles in that scenario. Do we need to change those roles? Okay, I'm sure we need to update them for the modern world, but let's remember that it's a cartoon video game. He's eating mushrooms and growing taller and jumping on turtles and collecting shiny coins on his way to attack an even bigger turtle. It's more of an endorsement of psychedelics for children than it is a reinforcement of traditional gender roles.
Wrong, those are two different things.
The traditional gender role is a set of conventions as to what behaviors should be accepted in society by individuals of both genres. And those guidelines change based on culture and times, the role of women in the 1900s is fundamentally different from the role of women in 2017.
Yet, we're asked to accept women should still be portrayed as damsels in distress now, because that's how it was since the 1900's.

While I do agree Mario is probably the least of our worries, you obviously don't know what it's like being a young girl and wondering why can't you play as the princess and why doesn't she do anything in the game other than wait to be rescued.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:23 AM   #130
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I don't think we're being asked to accept anything outlandish. It's a traditional tale of a man rescuing a woman from a monster. If that somehow weakens a young girl's self of steam then I guess it should be addressed, and I think it has by our society. Women are often put in more assertive roles and leadership positions in television and movies, not to mention in real life business and government. I think there are a lot of assertive role models for young girls, but I don't think that should mean that we have to eliminate or change something as trivial as a Mario brothers game to placate some sort of perceived oppression that it might subject people to.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 10:48 AM   #131
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True, the problem isn't the trope itself. The problem is that it's been the major way in which women have been portrayed for a long time.
While I agree it has improved in modern times, I personally would still like to see even more variety than we have now.

As someone who plays the Mario games and loves that series, we don't specifically need to change Mario. What we need is more games that are aimed towards girls that are every bit as good as the games geared for boys without being condescending as to what a girlie game is supposed to be.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:40 AM   #132
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Someday, with a little luck, someone's gonna corner fuzz when he least expects it, and just grab him by the pussy. Because apparently that's what it's gonna take for him to understand why folks are a lil sensitive these days.

Until then, it strikes me as pointless trying to educate him about sexism

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:43 AM   #133
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Oops, don't mind me, that was just some locker room talk

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 11:43 AM   #134
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NOBODY RESPECTS FUZZY MORE THAN I DO

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 12:27 PM   #135
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:03 PM   #136
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SELF OF STEAM

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:04 PM   #137
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:12 PM   #138
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Who has those?

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:14 PM   #139
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I don't understand the connection

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:32 PM   #140
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You guys thought I was bad

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:35 PM   #141
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Who has those?
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:42 PM   #142
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:42 PM   #143
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:43 PM   #144
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And this guy is talking about Toby's tattoos why? Guy might be crazy 👉🏽🌀🙄

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:45 PM   #145
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I can't believe he just attacked poor toby out of nowhere

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:49 PM   #146
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so who's sock is Dade?

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 05:51 PM   #147
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The peel and wheel is a classic tattoo combination, though.

Not sure why everybody's getting so worked up.

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:05 PM   #148
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Wow this shit is still going on? By Zarathrusthra's Beard!!

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:08 PM   #149
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I fearlessly predict that this thread will get someone banned (not me).

 
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:09 PM   #150
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lol Dade is c_wilson that makes so much sense

 
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