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Old 09-29-2015, 11:57 PM   #211
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I just wanted to make it clear (to you mostly) that what you think are good rules for this chatroom is not shared by everyone who uses it, and why.
Ok here's the "why" as far as I understand it:

People want to make oppressive jokes about marginalized people and think that sort of thing is a-ok.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:00 AM   #212
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I can answer one case of that - yes, I am fine with Auschwitz jokes and think it's okay when I get the context and it comes from someone I know.

for the case of LaBelle pissing on Stevie Wonder, you'd have to ask her for the why.
there is no general rule that works here.

In general I get the feeling what you call "oppressive jokes" is for some people a way to deal with reality, it is often called sarcasm. - see Doug Stanhope.
Unlike Mayfuckling bashing trangender - and meaning it.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:03 AM   #213
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it was an example - and you were assuming the example were two white people.

and as yoso just pointed out, we are drifting away from what it was.
which is me telling you that it sucks that you think you should tell people what humor, jokes and words they are allowed to use while talking to each other. my questions were simply curiosity to see if you "operate" that way in general.
because this is not like mayfuckling bashing transgender and hurting Sarah at all.

and even if you indeed do not agree with ridiculing Stevie Wonder (I wasn't there for that) - wouldn't it be cooler to address why right then and there instead of kicking people out? you know, talk about it instead of using the hammer?
for the record i did warn labelle and she kept going. i didn't explicitly threaten her with a ban, but this isn't the first time she's someone get kicked for that. if she wants to be histrionic and portray this as some kind of character assassination then i don't want to say to that. if she wants to call me "PC" I wear that label with pride. she's a star-bellied sneetch again so she can play her k-pop/power metal crossover shit without asking.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:04 AM   #214
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I can answer one case of that - yes, I am fine with Auschwitz jokes and think it's okay when I get the context and it comes from someone I know.

for the case of LaBelle pissing on Stevie Wonder, you'd have to ask her for the why.
there is no general rule that works here.

In general I get the feeling what you call "oppressive jokes" is for some people a way to deal with reality, it is often called sarcasm. - see Doug Stanhope.
Unlike Mayfuckling bashing trangender - and meaning it.
man, fucking white people.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:20 AM   #215
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hey come on now, that was indeed a misunderstanding. I wasn't implying you were ugly, bonz, I meant that comment itself could be funny!

I will go and fuck myself, though.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:21 AM   #216
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that's cool im done

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:22 AM   #217
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here's the deal, when you make a joke you need to ask yourself "who is the joke on" that's it, that's all you do. there's no subtlety or nuance. If you make a joke about auchwitz who is the joke on? are you laughing about how a bunch of people died? how is that funny? are you just laughing because you think you're supposed to? I don't get it

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:24 AM   #218
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hahaha all the jews fit in your ashtray that's priceless what a joke who is the joke on why is that funny

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:26 AM   #219
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and i never liked labelle in chat.
wow what a shocker here

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:27 AM   #220
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making people's disabilities the object of a joke is not an act of cynicism.

if you want to talk about why we shouldn't discuss porn in the chat, i'm open to that.
hypocrite

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:27 AM   #221
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hey do you want the chat to be full of nothing but single sad men because you just pissed off the minorities you're supposed to be protecting mr white knight over here

jesus

don't ban people unless they are evil creeps like mayfuck

i'm tired of this twitterista BAN BLOCK OUTCAST approach to "teaching" people about respecting others. it's asinine. If you want to make a point make it, but don't ban someone from fucking chat for it. Yknow unless they have a history of being considered a malcontent, disruptive or sociopathic

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Old 09-30-2015, 12:30 AM   #222
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second, we had that before when you intervened when buzzard addressed ME with "auschwitz jokes" - which is fine be me and I felt that should matter, since I have Jewish heritage and don't appreciate when other people tell me what I should or should not find okay or even funny in that regard.
yeah totally right on i'm indian and irish or some shit so i know what racism is like so let me tell you this hilarious joke about my ancestor falling out of a guard tower

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:31 AM   #223
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ultimately both of you are wrong , labelle shouldn't make fun of blind people either

and men, talking about masturbating habits and what porn you like really needs to end.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:34 AM   #224
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nevermind

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:36 AM   #225
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the other fucking day there was some shit about how the guitarist from deafheaven said faggot on twitter in 2006 and there's these wanks that want to have them dropped from festivals for it

everyone was like "jesus what a new low for PC culture" and we take another step back

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:36 AM   #226
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how
a bunch of dudes talking about their dicks and porn...yeah why wouldn't a woman feel comfortable and included

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:41 AM   #227
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just gonna nip that ethics in pornography seed in the bud and go to sleep.

night losers.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:46 AM   #228
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i love how people always make exceptions for their own behavior.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:47 AM   #229
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:49 AM   #230
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:56 AM   #231
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really though

how is it hypocritical of me to be open to a discussion about it.

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:00 AM   #232
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because there's no need for one, i think it's pretty easy to understand how a bunch of dudes talking about their cocks doesn't make for an inclusive non hostile environment

it's not making fun of blind people but your stated goal is to have a "safe space"

and tbh we can't have a safe space if we're going to crucify generally decent, nice people for making ugly jokes or feeling that we need to debate whether or not we should talk about how often you stroke your dong

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:03 AM   #233
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you're so right

and since you're a sensitive white knight for all the ladies, perhaps don't make anymore threads dedicated to the titties of a 17 year old or anymore posts about titties. all in the name of a non hostile environment, of course.

 
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because there's no need for one, i think it's pretty easy to understand how a bunch of dudes talking about their cocks doesn't make for an inclusive non hostile environment

it's not making fun of blind people but your stated goal is to have a "safe space"

and tbh we can't have a safe space if we're going to crucify generally decent, nice people for making ugly jokes or feeling that we need to debate whether or not we should talk about how often you stroke your dong
"crucify"

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:09 AM   #235
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is that bad am i using insensitive language to christians

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:11 AM   #236
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is it a trigger warning to people who were culturally oppressed and assimilated by SPQR

 
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you're so right

and since you're a sensitive white knight for all the ladies, perhaps don't make anymore threads dedicated to the titties of a 17 year old or anymore posts about titties. all in the name of a non hostile environment, of course.
yeah trots do you even sjw bro

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 01:45 AM   #238
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top 3 trending topic on facebook for three straight days

 
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Old 09-30-2015, 08:03 AM   #239
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Hilarity ensues

 
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Old 10-01-2015, 12:56 PM   #240
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Couldn't we just make the chat a space for people to talk and just leave it at that? Obviously abusive behavior towards one another shouldn't be tolerated; beyond that, the enforcement of rules seems like a big bummer for something as frivolous as tinychat.

 
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