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Old 10-18-2014, 07:07 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Any idea why SP weren't mentioned in Dave Grohls' Sonic Highways documentary?

The first episode focused on Chicago and mentioned a bunch of formative Chicago bands but made no mention of SP. It struck me as especially odd since Butch Vig is featured heavily in the doc and is producing this Foo Fighters album. I mean, I wasn't expecting like in-depth interviews, but they even made a little 20 second montage of Wilco when they were talking about all the bands. I'm thinking that it had to be one of these reasons:

-Dave Grohl hates Billy Corgan
-Billy Corgan hates Dave Grohl
-Billy Corgan views the doc as promotional material for the new Foo Fighters album and doesn't want any part
-Dave Grohl and/or the editors genuinely don't think Smashing Pumpkins are a noteworthy Chicago band.

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:10 PM   #2
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Foo Fighters probably wouldn't be in any SP TV shows. Who cares though.

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:14 PM   #3
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There's a whole lot more to the history of Chicago music than SP (and Wilco for that matter, though you wouldn't know it by reading Chicago media...asides from the obligatory 'Muddy Waters' they always throw in on their lists).

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:25 PM   #4
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Aside from you and fuzzyroes, who the fuck cares?

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 08:56 PM   #5
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I think it's:

Dave Grohl hates Courtney Love who partnered with Billy Corgan

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Also note that Jimmy and the FF drummer did this together:



so there is some connection between the bands.

Also I'm sure SP is important enough to be mentioned in the history of Chicago music

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 09:27 PM   #6
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is this documentary at all worth watching?

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 09:34 PM   #7
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ram, your reasoning is ramm27ed


 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:14 PM   #8
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Yeah they hugged it out this year

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:16 PM   #9
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Yes, now they're united against Billy! There you have it, that's the reason he's not on it.

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:21 PM   #10
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Francrs beans plastic surgery is getting pretty out of control

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:23 PM   #11
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Too bad billy was unable to step into that paternal role

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:26 PM   #12
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She turned out alright. She’s a very smart, nice, and beautiful girl. Somehow only the best genes and qualities from Kurt and Courtney passed on to her.

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:28 PM   #13
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She has surgically altered pretty much every part of her face except Kurts eyes

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:28 PM   #14
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i don't think it's anything personal.. SP just never got the cultural recognition it deserved. they get glossed over in these type of things a lot

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:31 PM   #15
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She has surgically altered pretty much every part of her face except Kurts eyes
What? I thought the plastic surgery thing you mentioned was a jab at Courtney (i.e. Courtney has had so much work done to look young that she looks like her daughter). I don't think Francis has had any work done.

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:31 PM   #16
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I can kinda understand why Billy has had some kinda meltdown about his career because it really doesn't seem fair to me the way he is is portrayed or rather not portrayed relative to the heights of his career
At the same time maybe he should be proud because being canonized in rock is pretty gay

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:35 PM   #17
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:40 PM   #18
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Isn't that just puberty? Hormones change a lot in women. I guess I just find it hard to believe that someone would allow such a young girl to have plastic surgery.

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:41 PM   #19
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I can kinda understand why Billy has had some kinda meltdown about his career because it really doesn't seem fair to me the way he is is portrayed or rather not portrayed relative to the heights of his career
At the same time maybe he should be proud because being canonized in rock is pretty gay
SP still gets a substantial amount of recognition from media. SD and MCIS are always on those damn top-whatever lists and anything he does still makes it to the news. Fair or not, for many, Kurt and Nirvana were the face of rock music in the 90s and everyone else is relegated to a footnote. I rarely hear or read anything on any of those other alternative or grunge bands.

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:48 PM   #20
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-Dave Grohl hates Billy Corgan
-Billy Corgan hates Dave Grohl
-Billy Corgan views the doc as promotional material for the new Foo Fighters album and doesn't want any part
-Dave Grohl and/or the editors genuinely don't think Smashing Pumpkins are a noteworthy Chicago band.

- All of the above

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:51 PM   #21
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Isn't that just puberty? Hormones change a lot in women. I guess I just find it hard to believe that someone would allow such a young girl to have plastic surgery.
well she's like 20 now. and has unlimited financial resources so
... though i know what you mean. anytime i see a 20 yr old with tribal sleeves i'm like, really?

she's had some work done but i think a lot of her change in appearance was due to weight loss. ironically she looked more like her dad before, if that's really what she's going for

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:54 PM   #22
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SP still gets a substantial amount of recognition from media. SD and MCIS are always on those damn top-whatever lists and anything he does still makes it to the news. Fair or not, for many, Kurt and Nirvana were the face of rock music in the 90s and everyone else is relegated to a footnote. I rarely hear or read anything on any of those other alternative or grunge bands.
rarely read or hear anything about pearl jam, soundgarden, radiohead (they were some kind of "grunge" at one point, and def alternative), or well, the smashing pumpkins? i'd say they have a lot more getting written and said about them these days being that, you know, they're all still active bands and whatnot

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:55 PM   #23
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WAT?

 
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:48 PM   #24
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Dave dated Melissa auf der Maur. During the resume the pose tour. I was at the MTV in studio in 2000. Dave didn't interact much w/Bolly - kind of kept his distance from him. . . he was a nice guy, interacted with everyone there back stage, cept Mr. Bill.

 
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:00 AM   #25
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Keep on going I love these kind of """""news""""""

 
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:31 AM   #26
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WAT?
rarely read or hear anything about pearl jam, soundgarden, radiohead (they were some kind of "grunge" at one point, and def alternative), or well, the smashing pumpkins? i'd say they have a lot more getting written and said about them these days being that, you know, they're all still active bands and whatnot

 
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:34 AM   #27
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does it really matters?

 
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:37 AM   #28
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Radiohead is mentioned at least once in every alternative music article. It's like a law

 
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:37 AM   #29
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well if we're gonna complain about "revisionist history" might as well complain about all of it huh?

 
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:58 AM   #30
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you can turn this
Into a laugh for sure land
But it was like Disney for me

Fuck you
Fuck Disney
Fuck
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