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Old 01-26-2013, 10:58 AM   #91
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Probably going to go buy the Ico/Shadow of the Colossus HD remake combo later for ps3. Noticed it's only $20 bucks. I got about halfway through SotC on PS2 before I eventually stopped playing. Never played Ico. Not sure which one to start with when I buy this.



To anyone that has played both, which is better?

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:03 AM   #92
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that's another thing i'm going to get when i get a ps3. i never played ico but it is a classic

the one thing that held sotc back for me was you could tell it was meant for HD but they released it for ps2 anyway because it had a bigger user base or whatever. so i can't wait to experience it in its full effect.. game really is something else

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Old 01-26-2013, 11:21 AM   #93
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i've been meaning to get a ps3 mostly for its blu ray player but couldnt muster the motivation to go out and get one.. but seeing that game sealed the deal. still hurting from the holidays so it'll have to wait a month or two though
demons souls is a ps3 exclusive too
there is your other reason

but you have to get a wii u also so please budget wisely

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:24 AM   #94
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:33 AM   #95
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i got it as a gift. pretty sure i couldn't afford whatever my parents paid for it unless i quit going out to eat for several months or something

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:53 PM   #96
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DLC used to be often included right on the original disc at release, and then only unlocked when you paid for the code. that is absolute bullshit.

but what drives me more nuts, is all these pre-order bonuses which actually affect gameplay and give competitive advantages. some games have exclusive bonuses from each retailer, so if you want to actually own the entire game when it is released you would have to buy it four or five times.
oh i know, the amount of shit that mass effect has that's exclusive to dr. pepper bottle cap codes and other cross promotional horseshit is nauseating

the entire pre order bonus is annoying. i pre ordered nba 2k13 because i wanted it, not because i got to unlock the all star weekend mini games. I mean why are you keeping that away from consumers, it's just a three point and dunk mini game. But now it sucks up space on my XBOX HD.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:02 PM   #97
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also can i say how much i hate DLC, feels like most of the time it's cut content they work on after the game is released and then plug it back into the game for 10-15 extra bucks. Fuck you.
Yeah Mass Effect 2 and 3 were notorious for this - DLC is generally annoying but only reaches offensive levels when the cut content is integral to the story (like Leviathan in ME3)

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Probably going to go buy the Ico/Shadow of the Colossus HD remake combo later for ps3. Noticed it's only $20 bucks. I got about halfway through SotC on PS2 before I eventually stopped playing. Never played Ico. Not sure which one to start with when I buy this.



To anyone that has played both, which is better?
I found Shadow pretty captivating whereas Ico left me rather bored and I never finished it (not that it's a bad game)

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DLC used to be often included right on the original disc at release, and then only unlocked when you paid for the code. that is absolute bullshit.

but what drives me more nuts, is all these pre-order bonuses which actually affect gameplay and give competitive advantages. some games have exclusive bonuses from each retailer, so if you want to actually own the entire game when it is released you would have to buy it four or five times.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:04 PM   #98
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did S K Y R I M have that kind of shit, something tells me it didn't.

I do know Fallout NV had a bunch of shit like weapons packs. Mass Effect has this too. Pay 5 bucks and you get new armor and guns. People actually buy this crap. Fallout NV had these weapons packs like the gun runner's arsenal and stuff, and it just loads you up with a whole bunch of weapons from the start, which i think is cornball and i usually just drop all of them on the ground in goodsprings when i start because getting both packs immediately on the ultimate edition will probably exceed your carry weight.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:09 PM   #99
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Yeah Bethesda is hit or miss but they've had some excellent DLC... Oblivion Horse Armor was the original poster child for bad DLC. $6 for horse armor. But then Oblivon also had Shivering Isles which is what DLC should be.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:11 PM   #100
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Yeah Mass Effect 2 and 3 were notorious for this - DLC is generally annoying but only reaches offensive levels when the cut content is integral to the story (like Leviathan in ME3)
yeah if operation overlord didn't scream "this was cut" i dunno what does. I mean it's okay but shit man, I just had some spare points and got it. The Shadow Broker DLC was pretty good but then again why was it DLC? Don't even get me started on Arrival, they make it sound like it had some kind of impact on 3 and it's just a line that Anderson says at the start and it wasn't even good beyond having the single hardest part of the game and only because it's JUST shep and you have to face like 10 dudes AND a YMIR mech by yourself. Fuck you. They have another one coming for ME3 still. I mean I bought a bunch of this stuff because someone gave me their ME3 copy but I don't like having to pay for a character.

Mass Effect 2 was irritating in this regard too, the Kasumi DLC was fun and had some challenge to it but the only thing you get out of it is a smarmy ninja and the best submachine gun in the game. and why am i paying for this gun? it's not REAL. I mean it makes playing vanguard easier since you have a reliable middle range bullet hose before you get to pick up an assault rifle. But seriously why are they squeezing people for this and why are consumers falling for it? I never bought any of the multitude of gun and armor packs for ME2 or 3 because for fuck's sake it's not real merchandise.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:15 PM   #101
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i think wow really opened my eyes to the level of nerdy completionism at work. they would have these brain numbing tasks that you would repeat over and over again just so you can get a seasonal shirt top or something and everyone was still doing it even though it was basically work because it wasn't fun and was boring and the gamers on there are like "Well you gotta work at it" and it's like HOLY SHIT DON'T WORK AT WOW, YOU PLAY IT, IT'S NOT WORK.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:23 PM   #102
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did S K Y R I M have that kind of shit, something tells me it didn't.
skyrim has been really good about DLC. they could've been really ridiculous about it considering the type of game it is but they decided early on any DLC would be more like an expansion pack

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:31 PM   #103
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yeah no promo codes and shit to unlock a daedric sword from the start if you preordered it from gamestop right

i mean there had to be a certain confidence at bethesda that they were making a game changer, it's hard not to imagine they ever thought for a second this game would tank. it's too well made to ever think that. I mean oblivion wasn't even really that good and it sold like hotcakes and SKYRIM just makes it look like a red headed stepchild with a finger in his nose.

besides, i don't know what "ZeniMax Media" is, but it seems like Bethesda is pretty much self contained whereas Electronic Arts owns Mass Effect and BioWare and they are notorious corporate whores. I would like to think that if BioWare was still under "Microsoft Studios" which was the publisher of the first game, there wouldn't be all this high concept cross promotions that Electronic Arts is so fond of. I mean EA really is a shitheap of a publisher. Definitely taking the video game industry to unpleasant new lows. If Blizzard wasn't trying out do them at every step they would be the industry leader in total douchery.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:02 PM   #104
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Yeah, EA gets a lot of hate but it's really deserved. Changing Mass Effect to appeal to a wider audience, in terms of gameplay mechanics, worked out for the better but in the case of Dragon Age II it really destroyed what made the first game good.

I'm also pretty damned sure that the inclusion of multiplayer in ME3 was forced by EA. Multiplayer is a continuing source of revenue and that is EA's model. Milk players for more cash after they buy the game (in many cases make them pay for features which Bioware could have included at launch). Bioware has always been first and foremost a developer of quality single-player RPGs. Multiplayer leeched resources away from the single player experience so that EA could appeal to the COD market.

The first DLC I ever played was for KOTOR and it was free. It was a really tiny little thing where you could get different colored lightsabers via an extra merchant on some space station, but nowadays they'd charge $5.99 for that shit. It was fan service without the monetary incentive.

Also: THQ and Activision just went under. Concentration and centralization of capital, yo.

 
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:08 PM   #105
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seems people are enjoying ME multiplayer and single player...i dunno i think a lot of this bitching about it is unwarranted and a very vocal minority of people who invested too much in what was already pulpy sci-fi

 
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:51 AM   #106
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:37 PM   #107
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i just found this today about Mass Effect 3, it's pretty good and presented in a very absurdist way and the ensuing thread is also worth reading some of. I responded to it for no reason, if you click "newest" you can read my transcendent brilliance if you wish.

http://badassdigest.com/2012/08/06/f...ment-611379099

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YOU ASKED HULK TO RAIL AGAINST SOMETHING THAT OFFERS GORGEOUS STORYTELLING, SO REALLY YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT IT WAS BAD AT VIDEO GAME INDULGENCE. SO HULK JUST HAS TO SURMISE THAT YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT STORIES AFTER ALL. PERHAPS YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THE PERSON IN THE VIDEO ABOVE, SCREAMING ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE "OWED" LIKE SOME SELFISH MALCONTENT. YOU WANT TO BE INDULGED. YOU WANT OPTIONS. YOU WANT GLUTTONY. WE HAVE A WORD FOR THAT KIND OF VIDEO ENTERTAINMENT AND IT'S CALLED PORNOGRAPHY. AND IT'S PERFECT AT SATISFYING YOUR EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL IMPULSES SO HAVE AT IT.

 
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:42 PM   #108
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:40 PM   #109
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To derail all conversation in this thread - anybody like me still (confusingly) addicted to Diablo 3? I'm still in full on addiction mode with that one.

 
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i think wow really opened my eyes to the level of nerdy completionism at work. they would have these brain numbing tasks that you would repeat over and over again just so you can get a seasonal shirt top or something and everyone was still doing it even though it was basically work because it wasn't fun and was boring and the gamers on there are like "Well you gotta work at it" and it's like HOLY SHIT DON'T WORK AT WOW, YOU PLAY IT, IT'S NOT WORK.
MMOs can easily take up as much time as a full-time job in RL does. That's probably why I never got into them. The amount of time it takes to get into them and become really good at them is so impractical unless you're a teenager or a college student. My friend and his wife played WOW obsessively throughout college and grad school until they both got real jobs. That, combined with the overall lameness of Mists of Pandaria (as well as the realization that their guild had over time been taken over by a bunch of annoying high schoolers) killed their interest in the game.

 
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really an expansion pack featuring shaolin pandas was lame???

 
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really an expansion pack featuring shaolin pandas was lame???
Shocker, huh?

 
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:47 PM   #113
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MMOs can easily take up as much time as a full-time job in RL does. That's probably why I never got into them. The amount of time it takes to get into them and become really good at them is so impractical unless you're a teenager or a college student. My friend and his wife played WOW obsessively throughout college and grad school until they both got real jobs. That, combined with the overall lameness of Mists of Pandaria (as well as the realization that their guild had over time been taken over by a bunch of annoying high schoolers) killed their interest in the game.
I still play WoW, somewhat competitively, I guess. (Top 100 US) It takes up my evenings during the week... Tues-Thursday from 7pm - 10pm. Maybe an extra night if we're trying to kill something.

I don't really play outside of those time periods anymore. I don't really "get" the people that get their giggles at getting all the pets or mounts or whatever. I have one character at max level and that's about all I have time to pay attention to. I always consider trying to level something else up but then I remember how much I hated leveling. I like end-game content; I like the "team" aspect of getting a group of people together to kill something. I like that everyone has different tasks to do in order for the whole group to succeed. Although it can be really frustrating when one person fucks it up for everyone else.

 
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Totally bypassed WOW - but doesn't surprise me that folks are still way into it. I get it, and can't crap on them being the Diablo 3 guy that I am.

It really is unreal how much time these games take. I could play Diablo 3 for 60 hours a week and still be nowhere near maxed out on that thing.

 
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I still play WoW, somewhat competitively, I guess. (Top 100 US) It takes up my evenings during the week... Tues-Thursday from 7pm - 10pm. Maybe an extra night if we're trying to kill something.

I don't really play outside of those time periods anymore. I don't really "get" the people that get their giggles at getting all the pets or mounts or whatever. I have one character at max level and that's about all I have time to pay attention to. I always consider trying to level something else up but then I remember how much I hated leveling. I like end-game content; I like the "team" aspect of getting a group of people together to kill something. I like that everyone has different tasks to do in order for the whole group to succeed. Although it can be really frustrating when one person fucks it up for everyone else.
man i remember when you started

 
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man i remember when you started
Yeah I know, it seems like forever ago. I remember Kristin and I leveling up together.

I ended up actually being pretty good at the game!

I'm sure I'll quit at some point, I have been getting progressively more bored with everything lately. But it's a hobby and it fills a chunk of my time that would otherwise be spent watching TV or something equally slob-worthy. I wish I had a hobby that was less embarrassing, though.

 
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i dunno bardy it's not really any different than slobby tv watching

i mean it's more interactive but

 
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I started playing Borderlands 2 last week. There are a few nice tweaks to the original (especially playing as the sniper/assassin character, the balance feels a lot better) but ultimately it feels like a bit of a re-tread of the first one. That said, it still has all the charm and humor that I liked about the first game, and te combat options remain varied enough to keep it interesting. Not bad but feels like a rush job sequel.

 
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i'm going to get it when its on sale on steam or something. i'm looking for something my pc can't handle just for shits and giggles and its looking like that on highest settings will do the trick. never played the first so i wont care if theyre too similar

 
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If you haven't played it before I'd say just jump straight into the second one - there might e some backstory you won't get but it's pretty irrelevant anyway. Play it with friends f you can - co-op with one player from each of the 4 character classes is the pinnacle f the borderlands experience.

 
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