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Old 03-03-2008, 12:09 AM   #121
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"The argument is anthropological and not simply biological. People are ethnocentric because ethnocentrism - helping ones members at the cost of all others - was adaptive to the ancestral environment. it is evolutionary and biologically rational for people to want their own 'race' to keep going forever genetically and if some people feel another race in infringing on that, they'll do what it takes to prevent it."

There is no evolutionary benefit to this. I don't think you honestly believe this shit and just chalk it up to you conflating tribalism and racism.
i have been talking this whole time about evolutionary psychology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:26 AM   #122
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we really have to separate general xenophobia and racism here. one could argue about innate xenophobia but innate racism? that's bullshit because as mayfuck said those races are nonexistent in the first place.

and if we're talking about some kind of natural xenophobia, well, then talking to an asian woman for the first time isn't any more frightening than riding your bike without training wheels for the first time. it should be just as natural for people to overcome it.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:34 AM   #123
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:55 AM   #124
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What's wrong with being racy?

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:10 AM   #125
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is that alisonmonster

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:13 AM   #126
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No it's a pedophile trap.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:32 AM   #127
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interesting association, "mccririck"

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:16 PM   #128
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There is no evolutionary benefit to this. I don't think you honestly believe this shit and just chalk it up to you conflating tribalism and racism.
Some races are less or more susceptible to certain diseases, so I would say that maintaining diversity - as a species - would be evolutionarily beneficial.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:20 PM   #129
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Yeah your prejudice is coming out a bit. This is good.

The point of that post was that being a caucasian in north america means never having to second guess arguments such as yours. It's not stupid to say that because I've been on the recieving end of such marginalization that I may have added perspective. Just sayin'.
Stop trying to make yourself out to be a minority. You live in Whittier: you're not a minority:
Hispanic or Latino of any race were 55.9% of the population (2000 Census). Marginalization? Ha. You're the majority. The establishment.

Also since that was a 2000 census I'm sure the percentage is much higher now since hispanics breed like Mogwai in a thunder storm

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:52 PM   #130
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just like how Chinese people who live in Chinatown aren't minorities right Nimrod?

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:53 PM   #131
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The majority perhaps, but definitely not the establishment. But changes are happening at least in California anyway.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:55 PM   #132
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regardless julio must have been a minority in the neighbourhood or school he grew up in, and must've been the victim of racism. there's really no other way to explain his randomly bringing race into non-race arguments.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:55 PM   #133
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just like how Chinese people who live in Chinatown aren't minorities right Nimrod?
Chinatown is a subsection of a larger city. It's not a fair comparison. look at LA County:
Demographics (as of 2006)

As of: 1 July 2006[3]
  • Total Population: 9,948,081, a 4.4% increase between 2000 and 2005, or about 27% of California's population.
Non Hispanic Persons: 52.7%
  • White (Non-Hispanic/Non-Latino): 29.2%
  • Black: 9.6%
  • Asian: 13.1%
  • Other: 0.90%
Hispanic or Latino: 47.3%

Under 50%, but still by FAR the largest demographic.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:07 PM   #134
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omg them aztecs are taking over the cuntry

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:08 PM   #135
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But even then there is a percentage of those 47.3% that are white. 'hispanic' is a somewhat vague as a term used to describe race. But I would be confident that non blonde hair/blue eyed hispanics make up a plurality in LA county. It is nice not having a majority tho.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:09 PM   #136
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regardless julio must have been a minority in the neighbourhood or school he grew up in, and must've been the victim of racism. there's really no other way to explain his randomly bringing race into non-race arguments.
i dont "randomly" bring it. it only seems ''random'' because people are completely unaware of underlying prejudices they may have.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:26 PM   #137
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You're the majority. The establishment.
these two things are not even close to being synonymous

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:29 PM   #138
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Chinatown is a subsection of a larger city. It's not a fair comparison. look at LA County:
Demographics (as of 2006)

As of: 1 July 2006[3]
  • Total Population: 9,948,081, a 4.4% increase between 2000 and 2005, or about 27% of California's population.
Non Hispanic Persons: 52.7%
  • White (Non-Hispanic/Non-Latino): 29.2%
  • Black: 9.6%
  • Asian: 13.1%
  • Other: 0.90%
Hispanic or Latino: 47.3%

Under 50%, but still by FAR the largest demographic.
whatever. you can point to the fact that within a very small slice of the country, certain marginalized groups are the majority. but they're still marginalized. and in the big picture they're still the minority.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:46 PM   #139
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julio is a great guy. a great friend.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:03 PM   #140
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Oh..... kaaaay?

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:08 PM   #141
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whoa

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:16 PM   #142
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:24 PM   #143
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:37 PM   #144
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:14 PM   #145
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these two things are not even close to being synonymous
I didn't say they were. But in LA both are true.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:19 PM   #146
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julio is a great guy. a great friend.
aw thanks. that means a lot to me, lauren.

 
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I didn't say they were. But in LA both are true.
okay well maybe you could elaborate on the less obvious of the two. how are "hispanics" the establishment in LA?

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:03 PM   #148
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i think he means LA has a mexican mayor. and there are mexicans in other notable positions of power in LA like city attorney and county board of supervisors. theres a number of congressional and assembly districts that are represented by hispanics.

thats beside the point though. when i said i was being marginzliaed i wasn't talking about politics.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:23 PM   #149
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Erase the hate.

 
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:03 PM   #150
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who is talking about history? not me. i thought that s the conversation you and rockin cherub were having. stop addressing me on this board. we dont even disagree on anything.
We don't?

History is part of every concept, anyway, man.

 
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