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Old 03-18-2017, 11:00 PM   #31
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yea that vids from "don't look back" isn't it? from what i've seen/read, any idea of any kind of feud between the two was just hyped up nonsense.

i mean of course if you were touring in some other country and were partying in your hotel and everyone said "hey here's this other guy who's amazing" you might be a bit stiff about it just in an egotistical sense but aside from that scene, dylan went on to say how great donovan was.

i'm certainly not a gigantic dylan fan so i don't feel like i'm making excuses here.
Yea I mean there were a lot of people being touted as the next dylan at the time. But it would take a lot of digging to find if that was really true. I think its easier to say that we know for sure that they were looking for the next nirvana because we lived it, but I have a new york times reprint I bought of all the beatles articles from the first few years, and they constantly slam them, so who knows what was really going on then. Dylan was on the surface really nice to Donovan and a dick to everyone else in don't look back, so maybe more is being made of it.

 
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:04 PM   #32
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:06 PM   #33
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Yea I mean there were a lot of people being touted as the next dylan at the time. But it would take a lot of digging to find if that was really true. I think its easier to say that we know for sure that they were looking for the next nirvana because we lived it, but I have a new york times reprint I bought of all the beatles articles from the first few years, and they constantly slam them, so who knows what was really going on then. Dylan was on the surface really nice to Donovan and a dick to everyone else in don't look back, so maybe more is being made of it.
Dylan was a try-hard pussy back then. He would try to dismiss people out of sight but would be really nice to them when confronted. He really was a piece of shit. The music was great for a while though.

 
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:16 PM   #34
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:26 AM   #35
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:33 AM   #36
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oh and the scene in Hail! Hail! Rock n Roll when he's teaching Keith Richards the guitar riff is superb.

 
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He only got famous because his cousin Marvin was smart enough to recognize a new sound when he heard it.

 
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yea that vids from "don't look back" isn't it? from what i've seen/read, any idea of any kind of feud between the two was just hyped up nonsense.

i mean of course if you were touring in some other country and were partying in your hotel and everyone said "hey here's this other guy who's amazing" you might be a bit stiff about it just in an egotistical sense but aside from that scene, dylan went on to say how great donovan was.

i'm certainly not a gigantic dylan fan so i don't feel like i'm making excuses here.
Yeah, the scene is in "Don't Look Back" and Donovan plays first, then they ask Dylan to play It's All Over Now Baby Blue and he does. It's of course a better song and it makes Donovan look like a hack next to Dylan but in no way did I ever see the scene as Dylan trying to show up Donovan. When I read about the supposed slight later I was surprised because they asked Dylan to play a specific song and he did.

They are all stoned to their eyeballs, drunk, and on speed anyway so I'm not sure anybody there could muster up any sort of master plot to destroy another musician on camera even if they wanted to.

 
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