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11-05-2014, 01:50 PM | #91 |
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i am actually quite pleased with tommy lee's drumming here. he's laying down a good groove that doesn't sound quantized and compressed. it's like you can hear the air in the room surrounding the drums.
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11-05-2014, 01:53 PM | #92 |
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best thing since adore? i wouldn't go that far but this is definitely one of the better songs of his career.
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11-05-2014, 01:55 PM | #93 |
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Pretty decent track, which is the best we can expect at this point.
Lyrics are cocktail napkin bad, singing is too restrained. Bills voice is best when angsty. Guitar is nice. Reminds me of Doomsday Clock in that it could use some breathing space. I still say the best SP2 vocals were the chorus of FOL. |
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11-05-2014, 01:56 PM | #94 |
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Mike Byrne wins this round, boring boring boring.
Bill you are soooo old! Sing that. |
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11-05-2014, 01:56 PM | #95 |
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11-05-2014, 01:57 PM | #96 |
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let's just be thankful he's enunciating his consonants.
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11-05-2014, 01:58 PM | #97 |
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11-05-2014, 01:59 PM | #98 |
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11-05-2014, 02:00 PM | #99 |
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Sounds like a riff that could have come out of Pastichio Medley.
I actually don't mind this track. Being Beige is abysmal though. |
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11-05-2014, 02:02 PM | #100 |
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11-05-2014, 02:06 PM | #101 |
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if i was him i would totally dive into pastachio medley and finally flesh out some of those riffs. no reason for them to go to waste.
i like it overall. |
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11-05-2014, 02:09 PM | #102 |
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I don't know about it being one of his best songs since the 90s, but it's a huge step up from Being Beige - at least the guitar tone is huge and the vocals aren't in your face and quadruple-tracked. I'd be OK with the rest of the album sounding close to this.
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11-05-2014, 02:09 PM | #103 |
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That's fine, but I never want to hear him prattle on about how he's better than everyone else because he, unlike his peers, refuses to repeat himself.
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11-05-2014, 02:11 PM | #104 |
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11-05-2014, 02:14 PM | #105 |
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Billy did say FOL was written earlier, but earlier in the Zeitgeist era (circa 2005 or 2006), which wasn't released until 2009.
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11-05-2014, 02:14 PM | #106 |
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This board confuses me. I know people have different taste and opinions of his music. But if nothing has satisfied you since 2000 maybe there is time to check some other band. Of course Billy will check this board and get confused. I don't think siamese dream would have sounded the way it does if there would have been a messagebord around at that time telling him whats shit and whats not. Obviously he does care what we think. I have been a fan since 95 and this is the first time in a couple of years that I think its sounds promising. The riff in One and all is great, rather listen to that than say for example Zero. Can some of you actually enjoy a song of any band without checking the dynamic range, if the snare is to loud? Must be boring
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11-05-2014, 02:17 PM | #107 |
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This song is legit. Not in an apologetic "well this isn't completely offensive" sort of way, I mean it's actually good. I wasn't a Zeitgeist or Teargarden apologist and didn't care for Oceania. This is a good song. And I suspect it's because he's looking seriously at the shit he wrote during the MCIS era. Although GLOW clearly stemmed from Zoom and that was dogshit too so who knows. It doesn't reach any amazing heights, but it's easily as good as anything from Machina. Easily.
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11-05-2014, 02:19 PM | #108 |
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11-05-2014, 02:22 PM | #110 |
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11-05-2014, 02:23 PM | #111 | |
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What he said. So many whiny pricks pissing and moaning about how they don't like ANYTHING bc does. |
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11-05-2014, 02:28 PM | #112 |
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I can name a lot of songs bill has done since 2000 that are well written. Before it use to be just the styling or production that had issues. Now he is just being lazy with lyrics. Hope DFN will be better, i like burnt orange black.
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11-05-2014, 02:32 PM | #113 |
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That can't be true. Anyone who doesn't like the MTAE songs aren't fans of Billy's music and are stuck in the past. So, unless the next words you type out are "l love One and All" then I don't want to see it.
Last edited by Araneae : 11-05-2014 at 02:36 PM. Reason: I got the name of the fucking song wrong |
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11-05-2014, 02:33 PM | #114 |
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11-05-2014, 02:36 PM | #115 |
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FUCK YOU BILLY CORGAN AND YOUR SHITTY SONGS.
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11-05-2014, 02:40 PM | #116 |
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I prefer fans like us who are critical but still have hope in what Billy's doing (maybe less and less, fair enough), who will always have an ear on what he can come up with, and talk about it with arguments, than the love fest I can read here and there (youtube, facebook) from fans who seem to like ANYTHING Billy puts out and think he can do no wrong.
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11-05-2014, 02:41 PM | #117 |
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I like it...not sure what some of the haters want. This is exactly where I hope the rest of Elegy goes.
As for the haters why are they on a Smashing Pumpkings forum if they haven't liked anything since 2000? As for the song talking to them, maybe they are getting too old? |
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11-05-2014, 02:42 PM | #118 | |
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11-05-2014, 02:51 PM | #119 | |
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People who don't like the song are in the clear minority in here. Is being critical or simply not getting anything out of it (because maybe just maybe people can be interested in his output while listening to a ton of other music) equivalent to being too old? And where did you get "not digging One and All The Viper" = "not liking anything since 2000." If you find critical comments offensive I suggest you hop off and join a facebook praise group. |
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11-05-2014, 02:54 PM | #120 |
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