Nicole Fiorentino Confirms She Was Dismissed From The Smashing Pumpkins

Ram27 · 05-12-2016, 08:43 PM

http://blastecho.com/nicole-fiorenti...hing-pumpkins/

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BlastEcho reached out to both Fiorentino and Byrne to better understand why they’re no longer Pumpkins, but only Fiorentino responded. Over email, Fiorentino confirmed that she was let go by Corgan but that “the circumstances look very different from my perspective than from Billy’s.”

“I know my heart was in it 150% ‘til the end,” she wrote, “and no one can tell me differently. It was my whole life.”

also her band's song is the same riff as La Dolly Vita

also i think they're all lesbians

butthurt · 05-12-2016, 08:53 PM

Monty got her fired, is what I heard.

MyOneAndOnly · 05-12-2016, 08:59 PM

wow it's 2014 news

T&T · 05-12-2016, 10:18 PM

how could her heart be in it 150% if she was also doing that other band????

LIAR ALERT!

jokes aside, she was good for the band. billy probably fired her because of mike. like he HAD to fire mike, and somehow she's part of the same era package. too bad. but too bad he didn't send home jeff too. BOO!!!!

fuzzyroes · 05-12-2016, 10:26 PM

What? people actually think Nicole may have quit?
I agree with T&T though. The Mike situation was going sour quickly, and you look like a huge jackass if you just fire some 20 year old whos dreams you've made come true, so you may as well just cut the cord on the whole era.

fuzzyroes · 05-12-2016, 10:28 PM

And I don't think Billy was impressed with all of that drama Nicole was partaking in on the message boards with guys like Belte. It was all pretty unprofessional behavior for a hired hand to be taking part in.

Disco King · 05-12-2016, 10:41 PM

Wasn't Corgan complaining about fans calling these people 'hired guns' when they were with the band? And talking about, after being in a couple bands that didn't work, he finally found people who he could trust and we're his soulmates and all that shit?

Then the hired guns became fired guns.

vixnix · 05-12-2016, 10:44 PM

She let him fuck her, shit got awks, he cut her loose.

Ram27 · 05-12-2016, 11:04 PM

good for him; hottest woman he's ever had sex with

vixnix · 05-12-2016, 11:09 PM

Probably the best female bassist he's had, too. Though actually, Ginger wasn't bad.

fuzzyroes · 05-12-2016, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vixnix

Probably the best female bassist he's had, too. Though actually, Ginger wasn't bad.

Melissa Auf der Mar says hi

fuzzyroes · 05-12-2016, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram27

good for him; hottest woman he's ever had sex with

Jessica Simpson/Veronica say hi

vixnix · 05-12-2016, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Melissa Auf der Mar says hi

I'm sorry, your ears appear to be broken.

vixnix · 05-12-2016, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Jessica Simpson/Veronica say hi

I guess somewhere underneath the hair dye, makeup & tattoos, there might be a hot girl. I mean. If you find 12 year old girls hot. Which really, you shouldn't.

run2pee · 05-12-2016, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Melissa Auf der Mar says hi

Nah she plonk plonked all over the fucking guitars

Agreed Nicole was a great player, IMO probably best bass player bill's had with him during his entire solo career since 2003

vixnix · 05-12-2016, 11:52 PM

I dunno, Ginger came up with that line on Owata, that's one of the most interesting the the SP canon. Not that I'm saying much with that statement, I guess.

fuzzyroes · 05-13-2016, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Run To Me

Nah she plonk plonked all over the fucking guitars

I think that had more to do with the Machina direction and aesthetic than it did her own personal style. As far as talented bassists go, I think she was the best.

fuzzyroes · 05-13-2016, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vixnix

I guess somewhere underneath the hair dye, makeup & tattoos, there might be a hot girl. I mean. If you find 12 year old girls hot. Which really, you shouldn't.

Comeon, I know it's fun to shit on ole B0lly, but Jessica Veronica is really attractive:

http://pthumb.lisimg.com/image/693971/280full.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a62c855c41.jpg

http://img.aceshowbiz.com/images/wen...enn5281690.jpg

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thin...l&tid=16816507

Butt Pope · 05-13-2016, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ram27

good for him; hottest woman he's ever had sex with

I'll miss the twins

amoergosum · 05-13-2016, 01:56 AM

Nicole revealed that Meghan Toohey came along when Billy tried (and failed) to write songs together with Jeff, Nicole & Mike in Sedona. Meghan wrote songs for The Cold and Lovely there.

[Wikipedia: "Meghan Toohey's current band, The Cold and Lovely, released their first single titled "Not With Me" from their upcoming album on their website on April 24, 2011."]

>>>

Nicole: We went there to write the record that I was on with them...Oceania...we went to Sedona, Arizona to write, so Meg came along with me.

Interviewer: That band (SP) writes together???

Nicole: Ehhhhhhh....well, that's tricky.

Interviewer: You don't have to talk about it.

Nicole: [laughing]...that was tricky...we tried!...we definitely tried.

Meghan Toohey: It didn't quite work out for them but for me it was like a carthardic experience.

Funbags · 05-13-2016, 06:08 AM

Seems 100% that Bills just didn't like them having a side projects - probably because he hired them with the intent of injecting SP with their youthful musical ideas and whatnot.

amoergosum · 05-13-2016, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Funbags

Seems 100% that Bills just didn't like them having a side projects - probably because he hired them with the intent of injecting SP with their youthful musical ideas and whatnot.

#bearcubbinforever

duovamp · 05-13-2016, 08:57 AM

Emilie Autumn. And I will bid you good day.

Baffler_Meal · 05-13-2016, 09:55 AM

How many side projects did Bill have during this time? Tea palace, book, wrestling, right wing musings. Wasn't he still on Facebook and Twitter bullshitting, too? My point is that, once again, what is good for Billy isn't for his contractors.

Mike was weighing down the band, but I never had an issue with Nicole. I hope she's doing well and is happy.

ButterflyBullet · 05-13-2016, 11:58 AM

Billy you fucking idiot. Like I get that Mike had to go, he wasn't exactly amazing but Nicole is probably one of the best bass players you ever had in the band

T&T · 05-13-2016, 12:13 PM

what were the details for Katie Cole and Sierra Swan?
Which one played bass? keys? both? back up vox? anything else aside from sashaying on stage?

MyOneAndOnly · 05-13-2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Funbags

Seems 100% that Bills just didn't like them having a side projects - probably because he hired them with the intent of injecting SP with their youthful musical ideas and whatnot.

Had nothing to do with side projects. They were going, talented and cheap to employ.

The cold and lovely was Nicole's partner's solo project. Nicole helped record the songs, but other bass players would sit in for live shows when she was away working with Bill.

That was just an excuse for firing them. Insead of saying that he was sick of them, of bored with them or simply didn't want to be around them anymore, he once again blamed others. Kind of like how he spent 15 years telling us that James was a horrible piece of shit liar.

This wasn't too different than bill firing Zwan. He blames other people for his own shortcomings. And Bill obviously doesn't get along well with others.

T&T · 05-13-2016, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

He blames other people for his own shortcomings. And Bill obviously doesn't get along well with others.

this is pure speculation. he has the track record that proves otherwise.

run2pee · 05-13-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I think that had more to do with the Machina direction and aesthetic than it did her own personal style. As far as talented bassists go, I think she was the best.

Fuzz do u even read netphoria

We were just talking, just the other fucking day, about Melissa plonk plonking all over the guitars, and we had a quote from bill bitching about her style

It most def was NOT an aspect of the machina era or style, it was her playing style. Talented or not, she was not a good match for SP. This is one area where I agree with bill

glass85 · 05-13-2016, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by T&T

what were the details for Katie Cole and Sierra Swan?
Which one played bass? keys? both? back up vox? anything else aside from sashaying on stage?

K.C. bass, guitar, backup/lead vocals
S.W. bass, keys, backup vocals

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05-12-2016, 08:53 PM	#2
butthurt Apocalyptic Poster Location: on the internet Posts: 1,969	Monty got her fired, is what I heard.

05-12-2016, 08:59 PM	#3
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,890	wow it's 2014 news

05-12-2016, 10:18 PM	#4
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,679	how could her heart be in it 150% if she was also doing that other band???? LIAR ALERT! jokes aside, she was good for the band. billy probably fired her because of mike. like he HAD to fire mike, and somehow she's part of the same era package. too bad. but too bad he didn't send home jeff too. BOO!!!!

05-12-2016, 10:26 PM	#5
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	What? people actually think Nicole may have quit? I agree with T&T though. The Mike situation was going sour quickly, and you look like a huge jackass if you just fire some 20 year old whos dreams you've made come true, so you may as well just cut the cord on the whole era.

05-12-2016, 10:28 PM	#6
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	And I don't think Billy was impressed with all of that drama Nicole was partaking in on the message boards with guys like Belte. It was all pretty unprofessional behavior for a hired hand to be taking part in.

05-12-2016, 10:41 PM	#7
Disco King Minion of Satan Location: Banned Posts: 8,876	Wasn't Corgan complaining about fans calling these people 'hired guns' when they were with the band? And talking about, after being in a couple bands that didn't work, he finally found people who he could trust and we're his soulmates and all that shit? Then the hired guns became fired guns.

05-12-2016, 10:44 PM	#8
vixnix Socialphobic Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria Posts: 12,467	She let him fuck her, shit got awks, he cut her loose.

05-12-2016, 11:04 PM	#9
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,368	good for him; hottest woman he's ever had sex with

05-12-2016, 11:09 PM	#10
vixnix Socialphobic Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria Posts: 12,467	Probably the best female bassist he's had, too. Though actually, Ginger wasn't bad.

05-12-2016, 11:52 PM	#16
vixnix Socialphobic Location: we are champions, bathed in the heat of a thousand flame wars in the grim future of the internet there is only netphoria Posts: 12,467	I dunno, Ginger came up with that line on Owata, that's one of the most interesting the the SP canon. Not that I'm saying much with that statement, I guess.

05-13-2016, 01:56 AM	#20
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	Nicole revealed that Meghan Toohey came along when Billy tried (and failed) to write songs together with Jeff, Nicole & Mike in Sedona. Meghan wrote songs for The Cold and Lovely there. [Wikipedia: "Meghan Toohey's current band, The Cold and Lovely, released their first single titled "Not With Me" from their upcoming album on their website on April 24, 2011."] >>> Nicole: We went there to write the record that I was on with them...Oceania...we went to Sedona, Arizona to write, so Meg came along with me. Interviewer: That band (SP) writes together??? Nicole: Ehhhhhhh....well, that's tricky. Interviewer: You don't have to talk about it. Nicole: [laughing]...that was tricky...we tried!...we definitely tried. Meghan Toohey: It didn't quite work out for them but for me it was like a carthardic experience.

05-13-2016, 06:08 AM	#21
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,426	Seems 100% that Bills just didn't like them having a side projects - probably because he hired them with the intent of injecting SP with their youthful musical ideas and whatnot.

05-13-2016, 08:57 AM	#23
duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,781	Emilie Autumn. And I will bid you good day.

05-13-2016, 09:55 AM	#24
Baffler_Meal Mothmonsterman Posts: 336	How many side projects did Bill have during this time? Tea palace, book, wrestling, right wing musings. Wasn't he still on Facebook and Twitter bullshitting, too? My point is that, once again, what is good for Billy isn't for his contractors. Mike was weighing down the band, but I never had an issue with Nicole. I hope she's doing well and is happy.

05-13-2016, 11:58 AM	#25
ButterflyBullet Demi-God Posts: 292	Billy you fucking idiot. Like I get that Mike had to go, he wasn't exactly amazing but Nicole is probably one of the best bass players you ever had in the band

05-13-2016, 12:13 PM	#26
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,679	what were the details for Katie Cole and Sierra Swan? Which one played bass? keys? both? back up vox? anything else aside from sashaying on stage?