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Old 02-17-2020, 01:07 PM   #151
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she doesn't turn around all vid i think?

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:07 PM   #152
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:15 PM   #153
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48:19 s'where the touschewiggling facestaring goes on. Proves jimmy can play w/o lookingat kit. Is she doing this to help give him a substitute high after the heron days? Or is she trying to tempt him to rock out for the music.
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Old 02-17-2020, 02:38 PM   #154
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yeah right, Woody, I bet you're that rat bastard Pajo himself!
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Hard to believe he left this blog uploaded, aye?

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Old 02-17-2020, 03:04 PM   #155
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Probably hoping someone like you would come along and make a joke out of the absolutely lowest point of his life

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 03:42 PM   #156
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Probably hoping someone like you would come along and make a joke out of the absolutely lowest point of his life
A joke too far for Netphoria?

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 04:30 PM   #157
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That was a garbage move, yeah.

Go sit in the naughty corner and think about what you've done.

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:02 PM   #158
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Please accept my apologies, I hope you all get the emotional support you need, and that your loved ones aren’t shagging B****.

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:52 PM   #159
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Probably hoping someone like you would come along and make a joke out of the absolutely lowest point of his life
i didn't see anything about Zwan in that letter











 
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:14 PM   #160
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i didn't see anything about Zwan in that letter











 
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:31 PM   #161
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Joey Goldberg again.

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:01 PM   #162
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In every video I've seen of Zwan members being interviewed, they are visibly going through the motions and don't give a shit.

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 10:32 PM   #163
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i have little to no sympathy for Pajo. Slint was cool & all, but the whole "I never even heard a Pumpkins song" shtick only begged the question of why he linked up with Bill & Jim in the first place aside from the fact that they were a couple of very rich dudes

Matt Sweeney, meanwhile, is the coolest

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:55 PM   #164
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Honestly don't get the mindset of getting to make a big album/video/tour and just not caring

but i'm just a boy on a forum

 
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Old 02-17-2020, 11:55 PM   #165
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or maybe i'd check out after 2001 was so great and 2003 so 2003

 
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:27 AM   #166
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because this particular album and video has turned out to be lame as hell

 
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:06 AM   #167
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:51 AM   #168
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Is Zwan not on Spotify because old Bill is bitter?

Is Zeitgeist still off it?

I wonder if he'll take his newer albums off in 10 years time.

 
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Old 02-19-2020, 12:28 PM   #169
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yeah, the Zwan album, Zeitgeist & TFE are all off seemingly as "punishment" from big boy Bill that we did not appreciate them enough upon initial release

if it's actually legal issues or something & this is just a front he puts out there to amuse himself, then points to big boy Bill!

 
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Old 02-19-2020, 01:14 PM   #170
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yeah, the Zwan album, Zeitgeist & TFE are all off seemingly as "punishment" from big boy Bill that we did not appreciate them enough upon initial release

if it's actually legal issues or something & this is just a front he puts out there to amuse himself, then points to big boy Bill!
His story on it has changed over the years, albeit both versions are about him spiting someone. In 2015 (or 2016), at one of the Q&As he used to do, he specifically mentioned it had to do with fucking over Warner Brothers, since he felt like they didn't give Zwan/TFE/Zeitgiest the push they deserved. This whole "I'm punishing the fans and waiting until people are intelligent enough to understand 'WE ARE STARZ'" started when he got on Instagram.

 
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Old 02-19-2020, 01:30 PM   #171
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Matt Sweeney is now in a band and touring with Stephen Malkmus. 6 degrees of separation for pumpkins to pavement now complete. The single is good, and it will be 3 albums in 3 years for Malk annnnnnd Billy can't write a song anymore. Karma.

 
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Old 02-19-2020, 03:52 PM   #172
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yeah, the Zwan album, Zeitgeist & TFE are all off seemingly as "punishment" from big boy Bill that we did not appreciate them enough upon initial release
All three of those albums were released on Reprise/Martha's Music, which is probably no coincidence.

 
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Old 03-04-2020, 04:55 PM   #173
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The band just morphed from something cool and semi-obscure into Corgan's saccharine pop behemoth.

The band 100% disintegrated because Billy wanted to make a chart-topping pop record
I still blame Elliot Roberts (billy's manager). Very curious how every song on the album was credited solely to Billy.

 
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Old 03-04-2020, 06:22 PM   #174
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All three of those albums were released on Reprise/Martha's Music, which is probably no coincidence.
It's been the same talk since Adore tho

 
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Old 03-04-2020, 10:42 PM   #175
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I blame Elliot Rodgers

 
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:20 AM   #176
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Old 03-09-2020, 08:22 AM   #177
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so you're trying to say that...


the zwan logo is funny?

 
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Old 03-10-2020, 11:43 AM   #178
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Yes. Yes, exactly

 
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Old 03-10-2020, 08:31 PM   #179
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big fan of matt's gentle fingerpicked covers. he still shares some on instagram from time to time.

 
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Old 03-14-2020, 08:58 PM   #180
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Zwan stuff is easily better then anything else Billy has done in the past 17 years.

Except maybe the video of Owata.

 
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