Californians: Your votes?

Nimrod · 03-01-2004, 02:59 PM

Here are mine:

No on Prop A. Look at the sponsors - it's all corporate and land developers. No thanks.

No on Prop C - It increases hotel tax from 11% to 13.5%. Do police and firemen get some? Yes, 0.2% increase. The rest goes to the tourism industry (hotels). It's a scam.

No on 56 - This is the big no. By having a 51% majority to pass legislation, you'll wind up with no bipartisanship and no compromise. If you happened to vote for one of the 49% not in the majority party, you have no voice in state congress since they become irrelevant. This is the worst idea ever.

Yes on 57 and 58 - balanced budget amendment? Hell yes. Refinance debt at lower insterest? Yessir.

Anyone else?

dusty · 03-01-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod

Yes on 57 and 58 - balanced budget amendment? Hell yes. Refinance debt at lower insterest? Yessir.

a friend of mine was telling me that 57 allows for a lower majority vote in tax increase and other related issues.
how do you feel about that?

Nimrod · 03-01-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by dusty
a friend of mine was telling me that 57 allows for a lower majority vote in tax increase and other related issues.
how do you feel about that?

That's prop 56, not 57.

56 sucks. It's a terrible idea, and basically eliminates any and all 3rd party candidates from the voting process.

I_was_aborted · 03-01-2004, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod

basically eliminates any and all 3rd party candidates from the voting process.

So it must have passed already?

Nimrod · 03-01-2004, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by I_was_aborted

So it must have passed already?

We're talking state congress here. Third party candidates actually have some relevance on a local level.

I_was_aborted · 03-01-2004, 03:40 PM

Some but not a lot, especially depending on white state you live in.

dusty · 03-01-2004, 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
That's prop 56, not 57.

my apologies. unfortunately i have never been up and up on all the election info.

Fattening Ass · 03-01-2004, 04:01 PM

I haven't researched shit. i do plan on voting.

57&58 seem fine.

i don't know enough about 56...

Nimrod · 03-01-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Fattening Ass
I haven't researched shit. i do plan on voting.

57&58 seem fine.

i don't know enough about 56...

56 is the one that scares me. 51% of state congress could raise state taxes? Ewww, no.

Fattening Ass · 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
56 is the one that scares me. 51% of state congress could raise state taxes? Ewww, no.

yeah that doesn't sound good. slightly over half can win the vote. Im assuming we already have more than half in either repub or dem, which would mean a victory for whoever wants it.

guz · 03-01-2004, 04:47 PM

i read 56 is 55%, not 51% (not that it makes a difference).

yes on 55
no on 56
yes on 57/58

where can i find info on A and C?

sppunk · 03-01-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Nimrod
raise state taxes? Ewww, no.

Raised taxes is what has to happen. Tax cuts will not rid us our enormous debt (California is the worst state for this right now of course). Taxes are not "evil" if you get something in return.

I love when the GOP bashes the Dems for raising taxes, but when they do the tax money goes toward civil programs, not other things like the GOP uses it for.

So, taxes are good if used properly.

Mayfuck · 03-01-2004, 05:30 PM

Yes on 56.
No on 57.
No on 58.

You people are such suckers for tax cuts. Fall for it every fucking year.

Homerpalooza · 03-02-2004, 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by Mayfuck
Yes on 56.
No on 57.
No on 58.

You people are such suckers for tax cuts. Fall for it every fucking year.

We have a winner.

The most important one is 56, shit that better pass.

03-01-2004, 02:59 PM	#1
Nimrod Macho Business Donkey Wrestler Location: the cross i'm bearing home 'aint indicative of my place Posts: 5,410	Californians: Your votes? Here are mine: No on Prop A. Look at the sponsors - it's all corporate and land developers. No thanks. No on Prop C - It increases hotel tax from 11% to 13.5%. Do police and firemen get some? Yes, 0.2% increase. The rest goes to the tourism industry (hotels). It's a scam. No on 56 - This is the big no. By having a 51% majority to pass legislation, you'll wind up with no bipartisanship and no compromise. If you happened to vote for one of the 49% not in the majority party, you have no voice in state congress since they become irrelevant. This is the worst idea ever. Yes on 57 and 58 - balanced budget amendment? Hell yes. Refinance debt at lower insterest? Yessir. Anyone else? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-01-2004, 04:01 PM	#8
Fattening Ass Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Planet Nintendu 64 Posts: 30,825	I haven't researched shit. i do plan on voting. 57&58 seem fine. i don't know enough about 56... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-01-2004, 03:40 PM	#6
I_was_aborted Minion of Satan Location: chicago Posts: 5,440	Some but not a lot, especially depending on white state you live in.

03-01-2004, 04:47 PM	#11
guz El Gringo Mexicano Location: I'd rather just have dome anyway Posts: 8,599	i read 56 is 55%, not 51% (not that it makes a difference). yes on 55 no on 56 yes on 57/58 where can i find info on A and C?

03-01-2004, 05:30 PM	#13
Mayfuck Banned Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,812	Yes on 56. No on 57. No on 58. You people are such suckers for tax cuts. Fall for it every fucking year.