Sexism. Is it a problem?

Smiley33 · 11-14-2002, 02:25 AM

special olympics: round 4

Crippler · 11-14-2002, 02:28 AM

Woman, you WILL respect my authoritah!

frail_and_bedazzled · 11-14-2002, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by killtheyouth
i dont mind it so much.

ok, that's it. you're off the breeder's list.

frail_and_bedazzled · 11-14-2002, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by killtheyouth
that's ok i didn't really want to live anyways

nihilism4u?

Random Female · 11-14-2002, 02:58 AM

i've seen it exist through my boss. She's the manager of a tiny retail store, and whenever she's trying to get shit done with upper management people in the mall or the vendors that sell us the crap that we sell, she has to act like 10x stronger than any other man to make headway. When we had a guy working with us, she would have him take care of the phone calls to mall management to make them come fix our shit. he'd only have to call once or twice to getg them to replace something, but she'd have to call repeatedly to get their attention.

This is only in a small little store, so unless in large corporations and such they're really good about compensating for sex discrim, I'd be surprised if it isn't still a problem.

Random Female · 11-14-2002, 03:00 AM

I guess that there still exists the notion that a woman in charge in certain situations is incompetent until proven competent, whereas a man is the reverse. I know it because I myself innerly subscribe to the belief, i think. I think i'm a subconscious mysogynist :/

Lie · 11-14-2002, 08:03 AM

Women keep each other down as much as men do.

Salena Child · 11-14-2002, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by Lie
Women keep each other down as much as men do.

good point!

obscured01 · 11-14-2002, 11:01 AM

I'm the only girl in my department at work... and no lie... at least 3 times a day, when I answer the phone and say "Internet Technical Support" the person on the other line says "Yeah! Transfer me to Tech Support, will ya?" or the "Yes, I need to speak to a technician please."

I also get it from my coworkers

But that's way too much to even go into right now.

meow · 11-14-2002, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by obscured01
I'm the only girl in my department at work... and no lie... at least 3 times a day, when I answer the phone and say "Internet Technical Support" the person on the other line says "Yeah! Transfer me to Tech Support, will ya?" or the "Yes, I need to speak to a technician please."

Are you sure that it is because you are female? I say this because some people are downright stupid and do not pay attention while on the phone.

obscured01 · 11-14-2002, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by meow

Are you sure that it is because you are female? I say this because some people are downright stupid and do not pay attention while on the phone.

Well... that *never* happens to my male coworkers...

Salena Child · 11-14-2002, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by obscured01
I'm the only girl in my department at work... and no lie... at least 3 times a day, when I answer the phone and say "Internet Technical Support" the person on the other line says "Yeah! Transfer me to Tech Support, will ya?" or the "Yes, I need to speak to a technician please."

I also get it from my coworkers But that's way too much to even go into right now.

i used to take tech calls when i worked for dish network. this arab guy told me he wanted to talk with a man

killed radio star · 11-14-2002, 04:55 PM

so long as you're still in the kitchen, it isnt.

11-14-2002, 10:12 PM

i'm terrified to think about my mom or sister being stuck in any situations (car problems, getting lost) i think they can't handle.

i actually phone them when i think about it too much. and, yes, it's because they are women. i'm very protective of the women i love. *shrug*

(p.s. it could be because my sister isn't good at directions or car problems, but i think it's because, i dunno...)

frail_and_bedazzled · 11-15-2002, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Lie
Women keep each other down as much as men do.

i couldn't disagree more.

Why Am I So Ugly? · 11-15-2002, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by frail_and_bedazzled

i couldn't disagree more.

uh oh! i see a cat fight materializing. *makes popcorn*

frail_and_bedazzled · 11-15-2002, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by killtheyouth

from a male point of view: women's friendships seem to be more of a battlefield than an actual relationship. While a day didn't go by in high school (and it still happens in college) without me hearing about so and so being pissed off at so and so, my guy friends never fought. like ever.

i'm not saying girls can't be vicious and catty. of course they can. but from a social/cultural point of view, it's men that keep up down. when women's only perceived value is her appearance, and she is therefore relegated to the status of accessory/toy, she will often fight tooth and nail just to maintain that. it's sad. it's true that people on the bottom, who should unite to overcome their mutual oppressors, often turn their hate inward and release it upon each other.

11-15-2002, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by frail_and_bedazzled

i couldn't disagree more.

so, strippers and loose women help the cause?

(note: i didn't say strippers were loose women, and vice versa)

frail_and_bedazzled · 11-15-2002, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Red Wine Cage

so, strippers and loose women help the cause?

(note: i didn't say strippers were loose women, and vice versa)

um, like i said, when your only value to men is as a sex object......

think about it, ok?

frail_and_bedazzled · 11-15-2002, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by killtheyouth
fair enough. though i certainly think the whole "womans worth defined by looks" thing is changing. look at the ratios of women who attend college now, some schools are frantically trying to actively recruit men now to make up a reverse gender gap. i think it's also a shame that it seems pop culture just got shallower when it looked like more gains were beginning to be made in the fight for equal rights. misdirected "sexual freedom" that is really just self-objectification by ppl such as Christina Aguilera/Britney Spears doesn't provide a helpful impression on 13 year old girls who idolize them.

thank you for adding this.

aslo, i'd like to reiterate for some people the fact that the fight for equality (for women, for minorites, etc) takes vigilance and maintenance. nothing is ever 'secured' for us...in fact, we often regress. so thinking we've had it made since the 60's really doesn't cut it. a lot of people think this way but won't admit to it.

11-14-2002, 02:25 AM	#1
Smiley33 Minion of Satan Posts: 6,542	Sexism. Is it a problem? special olympics: round 4

11-14-2002, 02:58 AM	#5
Random Female Apocalyptic Poster Location: white folks' ghetto, San Diego Posts: 2,005	i've seen it exist through my boss. She's the manager of a tiny retail store, and whenever she's trying to get shit done with upper management people in the mall or the vendors that sell us the crap that we sell, she has to act like 10x stronger than any other man to make headway. When we had a guy working with us, she would have him take care of the phone calls to mall management to make them come fix our shit. he'd only have to call once or twice to getg them to replace something, but she'd have to call repeatedly to get their attention. This is only in a small little store, so unless in large corporations and such they're really good about compensating for sex discrim, I'd be surprised if it isn't still a problem. __________________ When you hear sweet syncopation And the music softly moans T'ain't no To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to take off your skin And dance around in your bones

11-14-2002, 02:28 AM	#2
Crippler Apocalyptic Poster Location: Up in this bitch Posts: 4,446	Woman, you WILL respect my authoritah!

11-14-2002, 03:00 AM	#6
Random Female Apocalyptic Poster Location: white folks' ghetto, San Diego Posts: 2,005	I guess that there still exists the notion that a woman in charge in certain situations is incompetent until proven competent, whereas a man is the reverse. I know it because I myself innerly subscribe to the belief, i think. I think i'm a subconscious mysogynist :/

11-14-2002, 08:03 AM	#7
Lie Socialphobic Location: Goin' out West where they'll appreciate me Posts: 10,001	Women keep each other down as much as men do.

11-14-2002, 11:01 AM	#9
obscured01 Minion of Satan Location: DFW Tejas Posts: 9,693	I'm the only girl in my department at work... and no lie... at least 3 times a day, when I answer the phone and say "Internet Technical Support" the person on the other line says "Yeah! Transfer me to Tech Support, will ya?" or the "Yes, I need to speak to a technician please." I also get it from my coworkers But that's way too much to even go into right now.

11-14-2002, 04:55 PM	#13
killed radio star Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,205	so long as you're still in the kitchen, it isnt.

11-14-2002, 10:12 PM	#14
Red Wine Cage Posts: n/a	i'm terrified to think about my mom or sister being stuck in any situations (car problems, getting lost) i think they can't handle. i actually phone them when i think about it too much. and, yes, it's because they are women. i'm very protective of the women i love. shrug (p.s. it could be because my sister isn't good at directions or car problems, but i think it's because, i dunno...)